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Old 12-12-2012, 07:10 PM   #1441
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Thumb Best Dual Sport Bikes stage 1 kit with the powercore4

Hey guys, I bought the Stage 1 Kit from Best Dual Sport Bikes. Bottom line, WELL worth the money!! I loved the bike before and now I really love it. I wasn't sure it was going to be worth the money or not but I figured why not. So I gave it a try, boy am glad I did. I opted for the kit with the powercore4 little more power, little more sound, little less money. I know a lot of guys on here don't like noisy bikes for their reasons but where I ride noise is not a problem. The kit came with the FMF programmer, Megabomb, Powercore4, 13T sprocket. Installed the 13T the other day and that took me about 30 minutes, took my time and made sure I did it right. Then installed the rest of the kit last night took me 2.5 hours and again that was taking my time and taking photos along the way. It was easy to install,everything went together perfectly and the customer service was quick and on point (had some questions before I bought it). The kit transformed the bike for sure, I am not a light guy, weighing in at 245lbs. Some parts of my commute I would have to downshift for a couple hills along the way, now the bike just pulls and keeps on pulling, power is there when I need it, awesome transformation. Just wanted you guys to know if you are considering the kit it is well worth the money in my opinion. I will post pictures and some video in the next couple days. My 2
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:44 PM   #1442
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Toluene...in my experience, is NASTY stuff... I agree in more ways then one.

I cound run 10psi more boost in my turbo car with a strong blend. It sure made the car nasty fast...

Better be careful it will do nasty things to you if you handle it wrong.

It is a used when making gas thou. They used almost pure toulene in some race cars years ago. It worked great but was deemed too nasty.

Go to Pur-gas.org

List of dealer selling ethanol-free gas
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:35 PM   #1443
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as far as I can tell there are no screws in the Rotopax kit that fit those round holes? The included four screws are for the square holes. I guess my question is, did you somehow make it work with was included in the kit or did you have to pick up another set of screws to make it work?
I'll have to keep an eye on this thread. I own the same rack (not installed yet) and will be purchasing a Rotopax before spring. Which size of of Rotopax did you buy? I'm leaning toward the new 1.75US/gl unit. According to something I read, you can put in a full 2 US/gl into it. Which is 7.5l = FULL tank of gas for the CRFL! It's also only slight longer than the 1gl unit (same thickness).
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:36 PM   #1444
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Hey guys, I bought the Stage 1 Kit from Best Dual Sport Bikes. Bottom line, WELL worth the money!! I loved the bike before and now I really love it. I wasn't sure it was going to be worth the money or not but I figured why not. So I gave it a try, boy am glad I did. I opted for the kit with the powercore4 little more power, little more sound, little less money. I know a lot of guys on here don't like noisy bikes for their reasons but where I ride noise is not a problem. The kit came with the FMF programmer, Megabomb, Powercore4, 13T sprocket. Installed the 13T the other day and that took me about 30 minutes, took my time and made sure I did it right. Then installed the rest of the kit last night took me 2.5 hours and again that was taking my time and taking photos along the way. It was easy to install,everything went together perfectly and the customer service was quick and on point (had some questions before I bought it). The kit transformed the bike for sure, I am not a light guy, weighing in at 245lbs. Some parts of my commute I would have to downshift for a couple hills along the way, now the bike just pulls and keeps on pulling, power is there when I need it, awesome transformation. Just wanted you guys to know if you are considering the kit it is well worth the money in my opinion. I will post pictures and some video in the next couple days. My 2
Thanks for your thoughts on the Stage 1 Kit. Looking forward to you pictures and video. I'm ordering the kit with the Q4.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:45 PM   #1445
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Did anyone calibrated the speedometer on the CRF yet? All of my bikes had inaccurate speedometers around 5-10% in the positive, aka 88 on the speedo was actual 80 according to my GPS. I'm wondering how is the CRF's speedo is set by default.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:35 AM   #1446
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Did anyone calibrated the speedometer on the CRF yet? All of my bikes had inaccurate speedometers around 5-10% in the positive, aka 88 on the speedo was actual 80 according to my GPS. I'm wondering how is the CRF's speedo is set by default.
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Yes, I used SpeedoHealer. I found the stock speedo reads high by about 4%.

Here's a link to Ramz explanation/install of the speedohealer: http://rickramsey.net/CRF250L.htm

Click on modifications...speedoDRD.

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:56 AM   #1447
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Wow this thread is almost 100 pages of quality crf250l porn......im addicted
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:08 AM   #1448
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Hey guys, I bought the Stage 1 Kit from Best Dual Sport Bikes. Bottom line, WELL worth the money!! I loved the bike before and now I really love it. I wasn't sure it was going to be worth the money or not but I figured why not. So I gave it a try, boy am glad I did. I opted for the kit with the powercore4 little more power, little more sound, little less money. I know a lot of guys on here don't like noisy bikes for their reasons but where I ride noise is not a problem. The kit came with the FMF programmer, Megabomb, Powercore4, 13T sprocket. Installed the 13T the other day and that took me about 30 minutes, took my time and made sure I did it right. Then installed the rest of the kit last night took me 2.5 hours and again that was taking my time and taking photos along the way. It was easy to install,everything went together perfectly and the customer service was quick and on point (had some questions before I bought it). The kit transformed the bike for sure, I am not a light guy, weighing in at 245lbs. Some parts of my commute I would have to downshift for a couple hills along the way, now the bike just pulls and keeps on pulling, power is there when I need it, awesome transformation. Just wanted you guys to know if you are considering the kit it is well worth the money in my opinion. I will post pictures and some video in the next couple days. My 2
Thanks for the write-up. Have been wondering if spending the money is worth it, does one really get a good "bang for their buck." I know what Best Dual Sport Bike has to say, but then again they want to sell a product. Just wish the Q4 was the one putting out the more power and cheaper. Have found a few places where I am having to downshift into first to finish a hill, that extra power would be great to have.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:11 AM   #1449
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Did anyone calibrated the speedometer on the CRF yet? All of my bikes had inaccurate speedometers around 5-10% in the positive, aka 88 on the speedo was actual 80 according to my GPS. I'm wondering how is the CRF's speedo is set by default.
Thanks!
Yea, did the SpeedoDRD on my bike after I installed a 13T front sprocket. It was about 10.3% off with the 13T. Seems to be spot on with my gps unit now.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:20 AM   #1450
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Wow this thread is almost 100 pages of quality crf250l porn......im addicted

It's page 15 for me.... Set your posts per page up to 100.

Come to the XRL owners thread it has over 50,000 replies. That's ones 500 pages long with 100 posts per page....

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:25 AM   #1451
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WOW....thanks for that, I think..lol. 95 pages deep and no apparent solution to the problem from what I`ve skimmed threw. Looks like I`ll be busy reading threw it all. Exact same issue as described, with not much help from dealers or Honda for that matter. Good read for anyone that's interested (or bored) saves us (me) from going threw all the possibilities on here. I follow this thread quite frequently and am curious to see if anyone else on here is having this issue with the CRF250L or is mine the lone dud!! Love the bike and this Thread is great, just want to TRY and figure out this issue
Under braking the fuel pump could suck air and stall. My DL650 does it with 2 gallons or lessin the tank. I consider it a low fuel warning feature.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:30 AM   #1452
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Under braking the fuel pump could suck air and stall. My DL650 does it with 2 gallons or lessin the tank. I consider it a low fuel warning feature.
I'd think that is a reason to add foam to the tank to control slosh personally.

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:49 AM   #1453
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Thanks for the write-up. Have been wondering if spending the money is worth it, does one really get a good "bang for their buck." I know what Best Dual Sport Bike has to say, but then again they want to sell a product. Just wish the Q4 was the one putting out the more power and cheaper. Have found a few places where I am having to downshift into first to finish a hill, that extra power would be great to have.
I hear ya about the Q4 but an option I thought of was to just get the powercore 4 setup like I did then if it is too loud or I want to tone it down a bit I can always buy the powercore 4 quiet insert for 35 bucks and from what I read it does decrease the power a bit because it effects the flow, but is "supposed to" sound like the Q4. plus it gives you the option to run it either way. Still researching about this to see if it is worth it. Just throwing that thought out there. but I know the powercore 4 is on back order for a while so if you want the kit sooner rather than later the Q4 might be the way to go.

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Old 12-13-2012, 09:07 AM   #1454
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I don't doubt the Power Kit makes a diff. But I'd REALLY love to see a dyno of just the fuel controller on a stock pipe. Same bike, same day, same dyno. Back to back please! I'd hazard a guess that most of the power gains are the result of the controller only.

I'm just jaded on pipes. Had them on a few bikes, but other than sounding louder, my butt dyno says no gain. Hell, at least one of them actually hurt performance. One bike I had I got pulled over for pipes (street bike) so I put the stocker back on and left the power commander where it was. No diff!
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:34 AM   #1455
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I don't doubt the Power Kit makes a diff. But I'd REALLY love to see a dyno of just the fuel controller on a stock pipe. Same bike, same day, same dyno. Back to back please! I'd hazard a guess that most of the power gains are the result of the controller only.

I'm just jaded on pipes. Had them on a few bikes, but other than sounding louder, my butt dyno says no gain. Hell, at least one of them actually hurt performance. One bike I had I got pulled over for pipes (street bike) so I put the stocker back on and left the power commander where it was. No diff!
FWIW I have just a powercore 4 on my 250L and I could tell the difference. There is a particular spot on the way home from work that would bog the engine if I dropped below 40mph in 6th. Now, it has no problem getting back up to speed in the same spot.

The seat of the pants dyno feels better overall, but that one exact spot of road gave me a good comparison.
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