2012 GSA Engines Dies, Towed Home, Then Starts? - Page 2

taoman · 09-09-2012, 04:38 PM

Thanks bro.

WeazyBuddha · 09-09-2012, 08:51 PM

Read this thread yesterday. Today I'm out riding, notice some vultures on the road so I slow down a bit and pull in the clutch and as I get past I release the clutch and go for some throttle and realize the bike has died.

I coasted as long as I could. I'm not too mechanically inclined but remembered reading something about pressure in the gas tank (maybe this is not true for GS's?) so I opened the gas cap reinserted the key in the ignition and it fired right up.

You guys seem to be talking about bikes not starting as they are sitting so suspecting the battery seems reasonable but how about bikes dying while going down the road like the OPs and mine?

CheckerdD · 09-09-2012, 09:03 PM

I have read about problems with the lithium Shori batteries. I think what most people have in mind who suggested a high cranking power battery is the Yuasa 14 H BSX. have quite a few problem free miles on mine. Dave

SR1 · 09-09-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WeazyBuddha

You guys seem to be talking about bikes not starting as they are sitting so suspecting the battery seems reasonable but how about bikes dying while going down the road like the OPs and mine?

So far I've been able to make every FI bike I've ridden or owned stall at some point. It seems like there's always a weird combination of throttle moves/engine revs/engine inertia that will make it happen.

WeazyBuddha · 09-10-2012, 06:16 AM

Yabutt once above crawling speed it seems to indicate something going on. I was not crawling.

Drif10 · 09-10-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WeazyBuddha

Yabutt once above crawling speed it seems to indicate something going on. I was not crawling.

Had my 12gsa flame out on me a few times. It happens, dunno why, it just does. Snick the clutch for a down shift, and.... puh.

So I don't directly relate the stall to the no-start.

billdonna · 09-11-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by taoman

I pulled in the clutch, and coasted in gear doing ....I put my hand back on the throttle and let the clutch out and the engine just died.

Check the adjustment of the micro switch on the clutch lever. Maybe set too fine?? Just a thought.

taoman · 09-11-2012, 01:52 PM

I am at the the dealer. Everything is perfect according to the tech. Oh yeah....

taoman · 09-17-2012, 04:23 AM

I put 250 miles on the bike Sunday. Failed to start twice. Each time it took around 15 minutes to find the magical method that would start the bike. There is some loose wire or short somewhere. I called the owner of BMW in Jax and he said they would figure it out. Fun, fun, fun....

rboett · 09-17-2012, 06:00 AM

WeazyBuddha · 09-17-2012, 06:00 AM

In a way I wish mine would fail repeatedly to make it easier to identify the fault. It's only failed once and now I have the notion it might die while out on a trip or in heavy traffic. Please keep us posted on results from the dealer, I need clues.

taoman · 09-17-2012, 04:13 PM

I'm bringing it in tomorrow and leaving it there until they figure out what is up. Letting it cool off seems to help. Holding the starter button down for 30 seconds got it started once but didn't the second time. I will post results and thanks to everyone for all your help.

PukaWai · 09-17-2012, 10:22 PM

Hmm, no one has mentioned the HES. That is always the first thing that comes to mind with intermittent ignition problems.

taoman · 09-18-2012, 08:53 PM

What is HES?

trc.rhubarb · 09-18-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by taoman

What is HES?

Hall Effect Sensor - replaced by Cam Position Sensor? on 1200

No longer a common issue

09-09-2012, 08:51 PM	#17
WeazyBuddha Carbon-Based Humanoid Joined: Mar 2008 Location: RGV Texas Oddometer: 2,716	Read this thread yesterday. Today I'm out riding, notice some vultures on the road so I slow down a bit and pull in the clutch and as I get past I release the clutch and go for some throttle and realize the bike has died. I coasted as long as I could. I'm not too mechanically inclined but remembered reading something about pressure in the gas tank (maybe this is not true for GS's?) so I opened the gas cap reinserted the key in the ignition and it fired right up. You guys seem to be talking about bikes not starting as they are sitting so suspecting the battery seems reasonable but how about bikes dying while going down the road like the OPs and mine? __________________ 08 GS ● 02 KLR ● 12 WR250R ● 04 KDX200 ● 00 VFR

09-09-2012, 09:03 PM	#18
CheckerdD Beastly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2005 Location: Dave Rankine, Reno NV Oddometer: 1,071	I have read about problems with the lithium Shori batteries. I think what most people have in mind who suggested a high cranking power battery is the Yuasa 14 H BSX. have quite a few problem free miles on mine. Dave __________________ Pavement! We don't need no stinkin pavement.

09-10-2012, 06:16 AM	#20
WeazyBuddha Carbon-Based Humanoid Joined: Mar 2008 Location: RGV Texas Oddometer: 2,716	Yabutt once above crawling speed it seems to indicate something going on. I was not crawling. __________________ 08 GS ● 02 KLR ● 12 WR250R ● 04 KDX200 ● 00 VFR

09-17-2012, 06:00 AM	#25
rboett posser noob 205 Joined: Nov 2002 Location: nwa Oddometer: 1,619	__________________ That'L do Pig,, That'L do

09-17-2012, 06:00 AM	#26
WeazyBuddha Carbon-Based Humanoid Joined: Mar 2008 Location: RGV Texas Oddometer: 2,716	In a way I wish mine would fail repeatedly to make it easier to identify the fault. It's only failed once and now I have the notion it might die while out on a trip or in heavy traffic. Please keep us posted on results from the dealer, I need clues. __________________ 08 GS ● 02 KLR ● 12 WR250R ● 04 KDX200 ● 00 VFR

09-09-2012, 04:38 PM	#16
taoman ^OP Taoman Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Ponte Vedra, Florida Oddometer: 56	Thanks bro.

09-11-2012, 01:52 PM	#23
taoman ^OP Taoman Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Ponte Vedra, Florida Oddometer: 56	I am at the the dealer. Everything is perfect according to the tech. Oh yeah....

09-17-2012, 04:23 AM	#24
taoman ^OP Taoman Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Ponte Vedra, Florida Oddometer: 56	I put 250 miles on the bike Sunday. Failed to start twice. Each time it took around 15 minutes to find the magical method that would start the bike. There is some loose wire or short somewhere. I called the owner of BMW in Jax and he said they would figure it out. Fun, fun, fun....

09-17-2012, 04:13 PM	#27
taoman ^OP Taoman Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Ponte Vedra, Florida Oddometer: 56	I'm bringing it in tomorrow and leaving it there until they figure out what is up. Letting it cool off seems to help. Holding the starter button down for 30 seconds got it started once but didn't the second time. I will post results and thanks to everyone for all your help.

09-17-2012, 10:22 PM	#28
PukaWai Studly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Hawaii, So. Cal. Oddometer: 589	Hmm, no one has mentioned the HES. That is always the first thing that comes to mind with intermittent ignition problems. __________________ "Le bonheur est un voyage, pas une destination"

09-18-2012, 08:53 PM	#29
taoman ^OP Taoman Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Ponte Vedra, Florida Oddometer: 56	What is HES?

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