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Old 01-09-2013, 11:41 PM   #1516
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How fast is the new Husky TR650 Terra compared to other dual sport bikes? According to the Motorcycle Consumer News performance index...

0-60 mph
Strom 650 - 3.98 seconds
KTM 690 - 4.56 seconds
TR 650 - 4.57 seconds
F650GS - 4.89 seconds
G650 XMoto - 4.91 seconds
Sertao - 5.58 second
DR 650 - 5.66 seconds
XR650L - 5.83 seconds
KLR 650 - 5.99 seconds
DRZ 400s - 6.47 seconds


0-1/4 mile

Strom 650 - 12.52 seconds
TR 650 - 13.01 seconds
KTM 690 - 13.12 seconds
F650GS - 13.47 seconds
G650 XMoto - 13.93 seconds
DR 650 - 14.03 seconds
Sertao - 14.10 seconds
XR650L - 14.33 seconds
KLR 650 - 14.40 seconds
DRZ 400s - 14.93 seconds


Top Speed
Strom 650 - 115 mph
G650 XMoto - 109 mph
KTM 690 - 107.5 mph
F650GS - 105 mph
Sertao - 103.7 mph
TR650 - 103 mph
XR650L - 98 mph
DR650 - 95 mph
KLR 650 - 93 mph
DRZ400s - 90 mph
Am I the only one who finds strange that a 220kg strom accelerates faster than a 150kg 690?
Especially when they only have about 5 hp difference?

Then there are the quarter mile times.....TR650 faster than a 690? Don't think so.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:59 PM   #1517
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Am I the only one who finds strange that a 220kg strom accelerates faster than a 150kg 690?
gear ratios would have a lot to do with it I suspect.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:02 AM   #1518
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Or how motorcycle speedos are often optimistic when it comes to actual speed.
That's a legal issue. If the speedo reads fast and you ride by the speedo you can't sue the manufacturer if you get a ticket for speeding. Can you imagine how many cases there would be in US courts if speedos read slow?
By law in most countries speedos are allowed to be +/-5% and the manufacturers always err on the cautious side.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:26 AM   #1519
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Am I the only one who finds strange that a 220kg strom accelerates faster than a 150kg 690?
Especially when they only have about 5 hp difference?

Then there are the quarter mile times.....TR650 faster than a 690? Don't think so.
Here are the rear wheel horsepower #s from the performance index.
Strom 650 - 62.0 hp
TR 650 - 47.9 hp
KTM 690 - 46.21 hp
G650 XMoto - 45.5 hp
F650GS - 42.3 hp
Sertao - 42.15 hp
KLR 650 - 36.1 hp
DR 650 - 35.6 hp
XR650L - 33.3 hp
DRZ400s - 32.35 hp


However, MCN felt the KTM 690 numbers were probably lower than actual horsepower due to the knobby tires. In their review they wrote, "This is one potent single. KTM claims 63 crank hp at 7500 rpm. Our dyno testing yielded 46.3 rear-wheel hp @ 7250 rpm and 35.65 lb.-ft. of torque @ 6500 rpm, but those numbers probably should’ve been better. We also had a new 690 Duke on hand, and it peaked at 59.76 hp and 46.13 ft.-lb. of torque on street tires. The Duke’s airbox and exhaust are different, but its engine specs are identical to the Enduro R’s, leading us to believe the R’s rear knobby couldn’t get a decent bite on the dyno’s heavy drum. Our test Enduro R unit posted a respectable quarter-mile run of 13.12 sec. @ 96.33 mph, with a 0–60 mph time of 4.56 sec. and a top speed of 107.5 mph."

Here is the article.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:43 AM   #1520
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RWHP is way off. More than an XRL /DR/KLR for sure. IT out accelerates them easily. Had 2 new XRLs. Pretty gutless compared to the DRZ. Good bottom end though, just nothing on top.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:05 PM   #1521
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How fast is the new Husky TR650 Terra compared to other dual sport bikes? According to the Motorcycle Consumer News performance index...

0-60 mph
Strom 650 - 3.98 seconds
KTM 690 - 4.56 seconds
TR 650 - 4.57 seconds
F650GS - 4.89 seconds
G650 XMoto - 4.91 seconds
Sertao - 5.58 second
DR 650 - 5.66 seconds
XR650L - 5.83 seconds
KLR 650 - 5.99 seconds
DRZ 400s - 6.47 seconds


0-1/4 mile

Strom 650 - 12.52 seconds
TR 650 - 13.01 seconds
KTM 690 - 13.12 seconds
F650GS - 13.47 seconds
G650 XMoto - 13.93 seconds
DR 650 - 14.03 seconds
Sertao - 14.10 seconds
XR650L - 14.33 seconds
KLR 650 - 14.40 seconds
DRZ 400s - 14.93 seconds


Top Speed
Strom 650 - 115 mph
G650 XMoto - 109 mph
KTM 690 - 107.5 mph
F650GS - 105 mph
Sertao - 103.7 mph
TR 650 - 103 mph
XR650L - 98 mph
DR 650 - 95 mph
KLR 650 - 93 mph
DRZ400s - 90 mph


Horsepower, rear wheel
Strom 650 - 62.0 hp
TR 650 - 47.9 hp
KTM 690 - 46.21 hp
G650 XMoto - 45.5 hp
F650GS - 42.3 hp
Sertao - 42.15 hp
KLR 650 - 36.1 hp
DR 650 - 35.6 hp
XR650L - 33.3 hp
DRZ400s - 32.35 hp
Yeah that's not accurate. I've owned two v-strom 650's and now a 690. There is no way the v-strom out does a 690 in 0-60. The crank hp for a v-strom 650 depending on year is 64-68.


It's a nice list, but with those two issues, I question it's accuracy.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:49 PM   #1522
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What was the power difference between the 654cc KTM 690 and the 2012 on 690cc versions?
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:59 PM   #1523
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RWHP is way off. More than an XRL /DR/KLR for sure. IT out accelerates them easily. Had 2 new XRLs. Pretty gutless compared to the DRZ. Good bottom end though, just nothing on top.
Ive had a stock DRZe and a stock DR650 still lives here.
A DRZ may have lower overall gearing and feel peppier,although neither bike is what you would call peppy.
A DR650 makes more torque,pulls taller gears,has taller gears and I never once thought my 400 DRZe was faster then my DR. "Out accelerates them easily"? Didnt seem that way. Spin both up to 95mph and see which gets there quicker,or even 75mph.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:06 AM   #1524
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:48 AM   #1525
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:39 AM   #1526
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Ive had a stock DRZe and a stock DR650 still lives here.
A DRZ may have lower overall gearing and feel peppier,although neither bike is what you would call peppy.
A DR650 makes more torque,pulls taller gears,has taller gears and I never once thought my 400 DRZe was faster then my DR. "Out accelerates them easily"? Didnt seem that way. Spin both up to 95mph and see which gets there quicker,or even 75mph.
I agree with Red Cat, my DRZ-E eats DR's, certainly up to 60mph

Whoops, sorry, read the last post.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:14 AM   #1527
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Sorry guys but....since when did this become the DREZXYLMNOP thread? is this not a thread for the TR 650? Not to be rude here but thats the bike i came here to read about.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:37 AM   #1528
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:00 AM   #1529
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I finally placed an order for a Terra yesterday, but what a screw-around I went through. Check this out. There is a BMW/Husky dealer located about 20 minutes from my house. I have been phoning them every week or so for the last 3 months asking about the Terra and when they would have them in stock. First it was early Nov, then it was late Nov, then the middle of Dec, then early Jan for sure. Phoned them up yesterday and they still didn't have them and the salesman finally admitted to me that they hadn't even ordered them yet but said I could put a $1000 deposit on one if I wanted and I'd be sure to get the first one they got in. I asked him if I placed the deposit would he be able to give me assurance about when they'd be in and he said no. I then asked him if I made a deposit would that get them to order the bikes. Again the answer was no. He said there was some kind of issue with Husky Canada and they would not be ordering the bikes until it was resolved and he had no idea when that would be. *&$^&^$%%^# bulllshit!!!!!

So I phoned the next nearest dealer who happens to be located in Victoria on Vancouver Island. They didn't have them either but said they would order one for me and would check availability and let me know. About a half an hour later they called me back and said they found one in Toronto and could have it here in about one to two weeks, but they'd require a $1000 deposit before they ordered it. Put the deposit on my Mastercard and should be able to post a first ride report by the end of the month. Finally!!! So now all I gotta do is take a 1 1/2 hour ferry ride to Vancouver Island to buy a bike I've never seen. Sure hope it's as good as you guys have been saying it is.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:49 AM   #1530
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Where you guys getting the numbers for the vstrom hp? Everything I can find, from magazines to suzuki's websites, state the engine horsepower is 64 hp. I did find where one website stated 64bhp. If these numbers are correct, it would be impossible to have 62 hp at the wheel.
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