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Old 05-09-2013, 08:13 AM   #2596
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Hmmm, I seem to have missed out on discussion of the CCM. Searching it now. Looks good, thanks for the pic, Monkey.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:27 AM   #2597
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Thanks for the real world input Jigmoore. (Hope you washed the salt off after Daytona.)
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:02 AM   #2598
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I would love to get my hands on one of those CCM's. I really wish someone sold a dual-sport in the US that was in the 400cc range and more tolerable than a DRZ. MrsDonkeys would be on this bike like white on rice.

That is a nice looking bike!

That rear rack looks familiar...

In fact, I saw one on the road this morning:


Ah yes, that would be mine!:


The awesome factory rack couldn't hold up to the shit-ass washboard desert roads out here and finally made the great escape. I was planning on building my own rack anyways, and this is the perfect excuse for me to go buy metal.

On a side note, the Roto-pax held up awesome.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:30 AM   #2599
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That cracked me up.

That factory rack is crap. Come to think about it, does anyone sell a bike with a decent factory rack anymore?
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:35 AM   #2600
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That cracked me up.

That factory rack is crap. Come to think about it, does anyone sell a bike with a decent factory rack anymore?
Yes, it cracked me up too. I noticed the rack seemed to be extra flaccid this morning at work (I did haul ass last night over the washboards). But after about 30 miles into my commute, I heard an odd noise from the rear, slowed down and saw my roto-pax tumbling down the road alongside me.

I'll start drawing up plans for a custom rear rack. Looks like my USD RMZ250 fork swap to the DR350 is going to be put on hold.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:57 AM   #2601
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My rear rack broke off too. If some aftermarket company were to offer a metal one (hint hint) I'd buy it in a snap. I suspect there'd be a pretty good market for it too, because the OEM plastic racks are not strong enough to do the job.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:25 AM   #2602
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AltRider has one in the works. I think SW-Motech has one available now.

A rear rack isn't hard to make. I imagine I'll be getting fancy with a plate of aluminum in the near future.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:46 AM   #2603
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There's a difference in a rack and a plate that goes on top the plastic rack. I haven't seen anyone in the works on a replacement to the plastic piece itself, but I've been working out a design of my own to make one.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:53 AM   #2604
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Somebody make one!

Ok...I'd be all in for a stronger one. The ones I've seen for sale are extensions of the rack....so I'm not sure we would be any better off. I have my rotopax mounted the same as the one that broke off...I do mostly black top but but now I'm worried one of the big GSs or multistradas I ride with might run into mine if it falls off...(I am usually in front)) hehe...don't want to be a hazard to anyone.

Somebody should build a dozen or so....I bet you'd sell them all!
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:59 AM   #2605
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I never really intended to buy a new rack, so I haven't really been paying attention to the designs out there. I just knew SW-Motech and AltRider had something going.

I have had every intention of making my own from day one. I just haven't needed it...yet.
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:09 AM   #2606
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Yes, it cracked me up too. I noticed the rack seemed to be extra flaccid this morning at work (I did haul ass last night over the washboards). But after about 30 miles into my commute, I heard an odd noise from the rear, slowed down and saw my roto-pax tumbling down the road alongside me.

I'll start drawing up plans for a custom rear rack. Looks like my USD RMZ250 fork swap to the DR350 is going to be put on hold.
Sounds like your commute is the perfect test bed for the Terra. That sort of wash board takes many bikes to bits in short order. I've done a lot of serious washboard in Baja but never on a daily basis like you have done. But I've done it on a loaded bike. Our solution is to SPEED UP ... to smooth things out. It works, but TOUGH on the bike. (racks, sub frames, wheels)

I would be interested in how your Terra sub frame holds up after a few months of that sort of daily hammering. We can only wish more OEM's did such rugged, real world testing. Kudos! You ought to be getting a check from KTM for your work!

In Baja I've seen so many racks and sub frames crack, bend or break clean off. And we're only talking a few days of hammering. Doing it five days a week has to be "Japan style" testing. (FYI: Honda run engines at red line ... until something breaks. They've done this since the 1960's, all the big four do the same)

What about mounting your Rotopax on the side? Like on a pannier rack of some kind? Anyway, good luck getting her sorted!

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Old 05-09-2013, 12:56 PM   #2607
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Ok...I'd be all in for a stronger one. The ones I've seen for sale are extensions of the rack....so I'm not sure we would be any better off. I have my rotopax mounted the same as the one that broke off...I do mostly black top but but now I'm worried one of the big GSs or multistradas I ride with might run into mine if it falls off...(I am usually in front)) hehe...don't want to be a hazard to anyone.

Somebody should build a dozen or so....I bet you'd sell them all!
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Sounds like your commute is the perfect test bed for the Terra. That sort of wash board takes many bikes to bits in short order. I've done a lot of serious washboard in Baja but never on a daily basis like you have done. But I've done it on a loaded bike. Our solution is to SPEED UP ... to smooth things out. It works, but TOUGH on the bike. (racks, sub frames, wheels)

I would be interested in how your Terra sub frame holds up after a few months of that sort of daily hammering. We can only wish more OEM's did such rugged, real world testing. Kudos! You ought to be getting a check from KTM for your work!

In Baja I've seen so many racks and sub frames crack, bend or break clean off. And we're only talking a few days of hammering. Doing it five days a week has to be "Japan style" testing. (FYI: Honda run engines at red line ... until something breaks. They've done this since the 1960's, all the big four do the same)

What about mounting your Rotopax on the side? Like on a pannier rack of some kind? Anyway, good luck getting her sorted!
I will build something stouter when I get a chance. My new shop should be set up by the end of June and I will get to it.
I'm still wanting to put it on the rear rack because I like the balance there.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:19 PM   #2608
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I had thought about using the rear footpeg/...I will never use the tHe Strada for hauling a passenger...so if it was easy to do something back there I'm all ears..the Strada gets great mileage even running hard...but the adv GSA buddies I ride with love to Bragg about how far they can go between stops...I'm sure they would enjoy running me dry. Trying to keep that from happening.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:23 PM   #2609
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but the adv GSA buddies I ride with love to Bragg about how far they can go between stops...
Yeah, but have they ever used that range? It isn't very far between Starbucks anymore....
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:43 PM   #2610
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Hepco Becker has what appears to be a metal rack.

http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Web/meinB...%20650%20Terra

Part # 650.7521 01 01

Looks to be only $150ish from the US vendors.

My plan is to break the stock one, then get one of these.
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