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Old 12-22-2012, 07:40 PM   #1351
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The WRR is better for slow speed exploring too, it's relative lightness make direction changes, even trails that should not have been tried not bring you to the brink of doom the the Terra would cause.
I do a lot of local exploring, not technical stuff. I find the WRR perfect for this. The Strada works too, but I prefer the handling and nimble feel of the WRR.

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p.s. I can say this much so far: Terra beats WRR on the road. Slam-dunk, no contest. It has real passing speed and long comfortable legs. I'm laughing about all the 5 speed vs. 6 speed gearbox debate held between non-owners (many of whom have never even test road the Terra). Naturally, I would prefer a 6 speed gearbox. But, I'm quite surprised how much I like this 5 speed version....done right!

Yesterday, I discovered that I don't have to shift nearly as often. I was riding around town just leaving it in 2nd or 3rd gear. The motor has so much smooth torque, it will lug down to nearly a stop and pull smoothly right back up regardless of which gear its in. You can't hardly tell a difference, as it does not get into that chug-chug-lurch mode when rolling too slowly in too high a gear (like so many motor do).

Running down the highway at 65 mph on one stretch, I caught myself laughing when I suddenly realized I was only in 4th gear. I was feeling a little itty bit of vibes where I had not before, and was thinking hhmmmmm....where is this new sensation coming from. If this seems odd to you, or hard to believe, then you simply have not ridden this bike. The spacing of these 5 gears is quite effective. I've never once tried pulling for 6th gear yet. And, all my other bikes have 6 speed gearboxes. Very interesting, it is...
The Husky motor makes hustling down the freeway or through the twisties very easy. Theses bikes are very fast, to the point where they require some prudence to avoid getting ahead of yourself. The engine far exceeds the brakes, which I find to have a very wooden feel to them.

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The first thing I noticed was the smoothness of the motor. NO vibration, no flat spots. no hesitation. It pulls great from idle. It is deceptively fast. 5th gear roll ons didn't give a great FEELING of acceleration, but the numbers on the speedo were climbing faster than expected. This motor is a short shifters dream. It pulls strongly at low to mid throttle. Right where most of us ride. You could ride all day and never get past half throttle. I love it!!
I too found the smoothness of the Husky motor quite amazing. They went to a lighter piston than the BMW variants, and tuned the counter balancing to it. It's smoother than my WRR, but that could be lack of break in on my WRR as BigDog felt the WRR was smoother.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #1352
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I was certainly intrigued by the new Huskies. On paper the Tera appears to be another ho-hum DS bike. I had read some good reviews, but wasn't really excited about it. When HF rode up on one my interest certainly jumped. I pulled out the Goldwing and we took about a 100 mile ride. We switched bikes a couple of times. I rode about 15 miles of HWY and 15 miles of twisties.

The first thing I noticed was the smoothness of the motor. NO vibration, no flat spots. no hesitation. It pulls great from idle. It is deceptively fast. 5th gear roll ons didn't give a great FEELING of acceleration, but the numbers on the speedo were climbing faster than expected. This motor is a short shifters dream. It pulls strongly at low to mid throttle. Right where most of us ride. You could ride all day and never get past half throttle. I love it!!

Every DS bike that i had ridden NEEDED a 6th gear. The exception being the 990 KTM I had. It had 6 gears, but they are too close together. This bike doesn't NEED a 6th gear. It runs great at low speed and easily pulls 60-70 mph. It is new so i didn't push it any harder. The motor is just loafing at that speed. You could drop a tooth on the countersprocket and still be fine on the HWY. I didn't feel any huge gaps between gears ( like my 650 L). This bike feels light and flickable (unlike the KLR I had). Handling is very responsive with great feedback. It doesn't feel top heavy ( like a 990 or a KLR). Seat height is low enough for me ( 29" inseam) to easily touch both feet down. It is easy to stand up on and has a very comfortable seat.
The motor isn't quick and peppy like a dirt bike. But it is a lot faster than a KLR or a 650L, Both of which are outstanding DS motors IMHO.
I have owned a few dozen dirt bikes. For DS I have owned a 525 KTM, 990 KTM, XR 600, KLR 650, and currently have an XR 650L.
I predict that the 650 husky will be THE DS motor that everyone wants. You could easily ride all day long, day after day after day with this bike



And oh yeah.............. the smooth and powerful low end of this motor and steady neutral handling makes it very very easy to ride real fast in the tight twisties. You could make some wadded up, humped over, sport bike riders look silly without too much effort.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:47 PM   #1353
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p.s. I did bottom-out the rear suspension off my jumps. The front felt pretty good, actually. Soaked it up nicely. I've not touched any clickers yet. Just getting a good baseline for a starting point....and breaking it in. I can tell you mine needs more rebound damping in the rear shock. It kicks up pretty hard on a bigger lip. I've not looked at it yet, but am assuming (hoping) there is a rebound adjuster back there.
Did you get a preload adjustment wrench with yours? The manual says it comes with one, but I and several other early buyers didn't get them.

There is a rebound adjustment screw on the bottom of the shock. The service manual has this to say:

"Rebound shock absorber hydraulic damping adjustment
It is possible to adjust the rebound travel of the shock absorber.
B) REBOUND - Standard setting:
- 11 clicks
(adjuster 1)
To reset the standard setting, turn lower adjuster (1) clockwise until reaching fully
closed position. Then turn it back the number of clicks specified above.
In order to obtain a smooth braking action, turn the adjuster counter clockwise.
Vice versa to obtain a harder braking action"

No adjustments on the forks.

Just notice that the while my paper owner's manual does not describe the rear shock adjustment at all, the electronic version downloadable at:

http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com...%2011-2012.pdf

has the same shock adjustment content as the service manual. I recommend everyone throw away the paper manual, or use it as some sort of fire starter. My bike came with a USB stick, but it was corrupt, it allegedly has a better owners manual like the one at the download link above.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:32 AM   #1354
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Me with the summers first tomato from a plant which I nursed through the frost.



I had a great run today, did 100km b4 breakfast the terra is a hoot. Family duties are limiting bike time at the moment.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:34 AM   #1355
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Did you get a preload adjustment wrench with yours? The manual says it comes with one, but I and several other early buyers didn't get them.

There is a rebound adjustment screw on the bottom of the shock. The service manual has this to say:

"Rebound shock absorber hydraulic damping adjustment
It is possible to adjust the rebound travel of the shock absorber.
B) REBOUND - Standard setting:
- 11 clicks
(adjuster 1)
To reset the standard setting, turn lower adjuster (1) clockwise until reaching fully
closed position. Then turn it back the number of clicks specified above.
In order to obtain a smooth braking action, turn the adjuster counter clockwise.
Vice versa to obtain a harder braking action"

No adjustments on the forks.

Just notice that the while my paper owner's manual does not describe the rear shock adjustment at all, the electronic version downloadable at:

http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com...%2011-2012.pdf

has the same shock adjustment content as the service manual. I recommend everyone throw away the paper manual, or use it as some sort of fire starter. My bike came with a USB stick, but it was corrupt, it allegedly has a better owners manual like the one at the download link above.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:09 AM   #1356
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:04 AM   #1357
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Where did you find that toolkit? Hiding on the bike somewhere?

I've been so busy riding the bike in my first two days, I haven't even given it a good inspection in my garage.

I typically give them all a careful grooming with a fine tooth comb before racking up the miles. But the weather is nice for riding, and the trail so delightful. I've got no place to go, so let it roll...let it roll...let it roll.

I'll wrench later.

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****EDIT****just realized what a Stupid Question this is. So, I started a new thread in Thumpers section, just for such Stupid Questions. Please answer it over there, if you'd be so kind. Sorry to dumb it down over here in the mighty Terra Mega-Thread.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:38 AM   #1358
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highfive, top shelf stuff, although some of your words due border in the realm of bike porn. A warning rating may be required. I have the same disease with no cure, only treatment. Now which of my local husq dealers has M.A. meetings?

having owned a f800gs and little pokey wr250r, would be interested to hear the contrast to both of these bikes. I get a sense after reading this thread that the Terra kind of falls right in between both of these steeds on the mission statement.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:37 AM   #1359
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I cant wait to see one of these babys in person im going to go to my closest dealer thats 3 hr away after the holidays and i cant wait. On the topic of comparing this bike to the wrr in most all aspects ist that kinda like comparing a zx9 to a vstorm they are total different bikes. In my eyes the wrr is more of a 80/20 dirt slab bike and the terra would kinda fall back to 50/50 maybe 60/40 with a tire change. I see it being more of a comparison to the 690 ktm or bmw gs. It looks more dirt bikey but in reality just isnt a dirt bike. Just my .02$
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:56 AM   #1360
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I cant wait to see one of these babys in person im going to go to my closest dealer thats 3 hr away after the holidays and i cant wait. On the topic of comparing this bike to the wrr in most all aspects ist that kinda like comparing a zx9 to a vstorm they are total different bikes. In my eyes the wrr is more of a 80/20 dirt slab bike and the terra would kinda fall back to 50/50 maybe 60/40 with a tire change. I see it being more of a comparison to the 690 ktm or bmw gs. It looks more dirt bikey but in reality just isnt a dirt bike. Just my .02$
I think you got it about right. I've put a couple hundred miles on a Terra and I've owned/own KLR's and XR's in many configurations. Bottomline...if the bike is near/over 400lbs it aint a dirt bike no matter who makes it. Terra is the KLR Kawi should have built starting in 2008. I think Husky has a homerun with this model. Its just versatile enough to meet many types of owners....aging dirt bikers, returning riders, newbies and adv types who can make it nearly into whatever they think they need for their adventures.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:10 AM   #1361
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................terra is the klr kawi should have built starting in 2008. I think husky has a homerun with this model. ......

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Old 12-23-2012, 12:01 PM   #1362
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+1.
I think you could also add Suzuki to that list. It wouldn't take much work on their part to turn the DR into a bike like a Terra and they should have done that 5 years ago IMO.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:58 PM   #1363
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Did you get a preload adjustment wrench with yours? The manual says it comes with one, but I and several other early buyers didn't get them.

Just notice that the while my paper owner's manual does not describe the rear shock adjustment at all, the electronic version downloadable at:

http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com...%2011-2012.pdf

has the same shock adjustment content as the service manual. I recommend everyone throw away the paper manual, or use it as some sort of fire starter.

My bike came with a USB stick, but it was corrupt, it allegedly has a better owners manual like the one at the download link above.

No, I did not receive any tools whatsoever. I didn't find anything underneath the seat. Thanks for the link to the Service Manual. Your Memory Stick might not be corrupted. If text is showing up as a bunch of jumbled up characters, its probably for a MAC, not a PC. Try that before you toss it. The little red stick that came with my owners manual, with a Husky logo on it, is simply an electronic file of the same thing printed in the book…..which is pretty much worthless. If you indeed believe the Dealer gave you the Service Manual on a stick, insert it into MAC.


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highfive, top shelf stuff, although some of your words due border in the realm of bike porn. A warning rating may be required.

having owned a f800gs and little pokey wr250r, would be interested to hear the contrast to both of these bikes. I get a sense after reading this thread that the Terra kind of falls right in between both of these steeds on the mission statement.
I'll give a full comparison in the near future. Let me get some more time on the Terra. I need a skid plate, handguards, etc and some time to hit the woods.

Your "sense" is right on target…..right between the WRR and F800. The WRR has better woods manners, I'm sure, but that doesn't mean the Terra isn't capable (yet). My offroad playtime has actually surprised me, so far. The Terra behaved considerably better than I expected. It will have to be geared down a bit for trail duty. I will be going down one tooth on the drive sprocket, for starters.

The F800 definitely has more power (85 vs. 50 +/-), and is a twin vs. a single, but it also weighs 100 lbs more than the Terra. The cool thing is the Terra has real Beemer-like road manners in both handling and power. However, it feels very compact and nimble when in motion. Quite cleverly designed, I think.

The Terra motor is definitely smoother than either the WRR or F800GS. Mine has flawless fuel metering in the FI. The stock WRR and F800 do not.




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I cant wait to see one of these babys in person im going to go to my closest dealer thats 3 hr away after the holidays and i cant wait.

In my eyes the wrr is more of a 80/20 dirt slab bike and the terra would kinda fall back to 50/50 maybe 60/40 with a tire change.
Gomer, your excitement is warranted. Looks better in person, than in photos. Rides much better than it looks. You'll understand, if you get the chance.

Regarding your rating of the WRR, I disagree. I've got as much experience with a WRR as just about anybody. I rate it as a true 50/50 dualsport. It is not in the 80/20 league (those would be plated dirtbikes like my Husaberg, a KTM EXC, Beta, etc). I'm not saying the WRR isn't a barrel of fun in the woods….but its a fair bit of work in the rough stuff due to its 300+ weight and stable road manners. In comparison, the Husaberg feels like I'm cheating no matter how rough it gets....and is surprisingly nice on the road. That's why I rate the Berg 80/20 and the WRR 50/50. My $2 worth.

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Old 12-23-2012, 07:14 PM   #1364
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Day 3

I was loaded down with pre-Christmas chores again today, but managed to sneak in another 100 miles of riding before dark. I've put over 400 miles on it the past 3 days. I returned to the Twisties....solo this time. No interruptions. no distractions. I wanted to really focus on the bike performance now that I'm quite familiar with it. The Dragon of the Cherokees has about 100 curves in 7 miles, and today, no traffic! I had it absolutely to myself.

So, I pushed it a little….ok, maybe a lot. I was having a sick amount of fun. Hear me now and believe me later, the TR650 is STUPID FAST in the tight twisties. I clicked into 4th gear and just left it there the whole run. I've ridden every one of my bikes thru here multiple times. Never, have I been able to leave a bike in one single gear for the whole run. The torque and power just seemed perfect for me. To be certain, I'm no road racer. Just a guy out having fun who scraped a peg today.

Makes me want to try it all over again on a Strada. Man-oh-man, that's got to be something special in the Twisties. This is probably the most comfortable I've been pushing a bike faster than I probably should. I was completely confident in my control of the bike. The stability, handling, & power delivery are very inspiring. Swear I could hear the bike speaking to me: "No problem...twist it more....I can handle it....let's go" Smooth as butter, I'm telling you.

Weather appears to be taking a plunge for the next several days. Maybe I'll finally get to do some wrenching...

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Old 12-23-2012, 07:22 PM   #1365
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Wanted a top case for the Strada, but didn't want to part with the $300-400 for the Husky Givi stuff. Went with a Pelican 2450 IM2450, $122 + $8 of stuff from the local hardware store. Pretty happy with the result, but the storm has a lot of flex in the bottom. Will likely end up doing some sort of plate to stiffen the bottom.

The rack pulls off easily, four T45 screws and it's off. They bottom of the rack has wells for nuts at three locations, a M8 nut fits perfectly. I scoped things out visually, confirmed with a few measurements, and then started drilling. Picked up M8-25 bolts, flat and fender washers, and M8 nuts. The wells for the nut prevent the case being removed without access to the inside of the case.

Husky calls for 19NM of torque on the rack mounting bolts, they had blue thread lock which I replaced. The box can be removed easily without removing the rack.

On to the pics...

The bike without the rack.



The box box.



The bare rack.



The hardware.



The nut wells.

[IMG]http://krussell.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/strada/i-dKP7FQx/0/L/009-L.jpg[IMG]

Voiding the warranty on the case.



Finished product from the inside.



Bottom view.



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