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Old 08-12-2013, 04:41 PM   #1
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Tiger vs 650 V-Strom

I’m still looking for a replacement for the DRZ400S I was riding to replace the bike which was stolen. I can’t say took a liking to the DRZ as I felt like it was unstable maybe because it was a thumper and had d/s tires. Anyway, I’d like some opinions on the Tiger 800 vs the 650 V-strom. There are left over ’12 models which can be had for decent $$$ and the price differential between the two is about $1000.00.

I’ll be riding on road and occasional light off-road (fire service roads, etc). Probably my main criteria is dependability (since I have 4 kids and no time for fixing stuff I shouldn’t have to. Your comments are welcome on these two or any other suggestion.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:58 PM   #2
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I own a first-generation 650 VStrom with 45K miles and have taken a brief ride on a Tiger 800 "roadie". The Triumph felt better in almost every aspect ... smoother, more power, better suspension and brakes, etc. However, the current '12 Wee is supposed to be marginally better than the first-gen bikes. That said, the Wee will get better fuel range and mileage, and most likely be cheaper to run (maintenance, repairs, price of farkles). That plus a $1000 head start could make the Wee the "better" choice. Two of my favorite features of the Wee are the 250-300 mile tank range, and the low-profile of the bike. Some call it boring; to me it just allows you to focus on the journey and not the machine.

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Old 08-12-2013, 06:22 PM   #3
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More fun? Triumph hands down. Lower initial price and very likely lower maintenance costs? Wee, hands down. Somewhere in between? You'll have to figure out which suits you better.

Check the ergos out on both. The Tiger has more legroom, but you lean forward a fair amount...the wee is more upright but has less legroom. Spend time on both before making a decision.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:28 PM   #4
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I have a 2013 XC model with the 21" front wheel. I am coming from a XR650L. Sounds like you are doing the same riding I do. Personally, I have never, ever liked the V-Strom. Just doesn't do anything for me, dont get me wrong, I have riding buddies that ride them and they love em. The Tiger on the other hand is an amazing machine, like others have said the only real issue is the placement of the handlebars. Which is a inexpensive fix with ROX risers. Test ride both and you decide which puts the bigger smile on your face!

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Old 08-12-2013, 08:11 PM   #5
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My 2006 Wee has been bullet-proof....

Just completed a 3,000 mile ride through the monsoon of CO, UT, AZ and NM.

It ticked over 50,000 miles during the ride.

I also own a Bonneville... the closest dealership is 45 miles away...

The Bonny has been to the shop twice in 2.5 years... the dealership screwed up both times... won't get a third chance. Am considering swapping the Bonny for an FZ8 or maybe the new FZ9.

When the Wee is worn out, I may well replace it with another Wee.

Airborne... All the Way.

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Old 08-12-2013, 09:30 PM   #6
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I've owned two Wee Stroms. An '07 and my current '11. Loved both, but always felt something was lacking. I am picking up my T800 roadie today. It has that undefinable something that I was looking for. Realistically, however, I find it handles much better, is more comfortable (for me), needs fewer mods to make it "mine" and quite frankly, and a little sheepishly, I feel it's just cooler than the Wee. The Wee is a fine motorcycle and will do almost anything that you ask of it quite capably and in the long run will be less expensive to own. But, there is just something about the Tiger. In the end, it's your butt in the seat so ride what puts the biggest smile on your face.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:55 PM   #7
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I've owned two Wee Stroms. An '07 and my current '11. Loved both, but always felt something was lacking. I am picking up my T800 roadie today. It has that undefinable something that I was looking for. Realistically, however, I find it handles much better, is more comfortable (for me), needs fewer mods to make it "mine" and quite frankly, and a little sheepishly, I feel it's just cooler than the Wee. The Wee is a fine motorcycle and will do almost anything that you ask of it quite capably and in the long run will be less expensive to own. But, there is just something about the Tiger. In the end, it's your butt in the seat so ride what puts the biggest smile on your face.
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I think the V-Strom is the KLR of Beasts.....
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:34 PM   #8
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If your main criterion really is reliability (mine is), then the Strom is your bike.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:57 AM   #9
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I've owned both with my current ride being the Tiger 800. The wee strom is a fine motorcycle, but is a rather dull and soul-less appliance. The Tiger has some quirks, but is generally very entertaining and reliable. For only a grand difference there really is no decision. Honestly, though the price difference between the two should be a couple of grand unless the wee is the loaded up adventure version, then there is more of a decision to be made.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:03 AM   #10
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When Triumph came out with the 800's, I just new the Roadie wold be my next bike. Maybe I expected to much. I went and looked at it, and it did nothing for me. I tried to throw a leg over, and busted my shin on the passenger grab handle. Once I did get on it, it just didn't feel right. I walked away.

Fast forward to June of '13, and I am test riding a left over 2012 DL650 Adventure. I liked everything about it. It was comfortable, made plenty of power, the suspension felt good, the seat felt good, ergos were good. I bought it, and have 4500 miles later, I have no regrets.

Some folks say it's boring - I have no idea where they are coming from. If you twist her tail, she will scream! I passed a pickup and a car last Saturday. The truck was big, and I did not realize there was no room for me to pull in between the truck and the car - and there was a car coming from the other direction. I just gassed it and she screamed by, we were over 80 when I pulled back into my lane. We got the pass done with room to spare.

Also I am a big guy. I took my wife for a ride on it the other day, and it had no problem carrying the two of us.

Also I think if you compare 1/4 mile stats of the DL650 vs the Triumph 800 vs the BMW 800, you will find the Suzuki is not far off the pace of the bigger bikes. About .3 if I remember correctly.

I am very happy with my DL650.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:17 AM   #11
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I posted this not too long ago...

http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...0#post21996140
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:18 AM   #12
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http://www.zeroto60times.com/Motorcy...mph-Times.html

according to this website:

0-60 1/4 mile
DL650 3.5 12.4
800XC 5.6 12.7
F800GS 3.8 12.4

that 0-60 number on the 800XC doesn't look right to me, but that's what the websiter says. I would think it would be pretty equally matched to the BMW. What is surprising is that the DL650 is competitive with the 800's.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:33 AM   #13
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both are good

I have a 2012 Vstrom 650 and I love it! I don't think there's a bad choice between the 2. good luck!
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:41 AM   #14
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http://www.zeroto60times.com/Motorcy...mph-Times.html

according to this website:

0-60 1/4 mile
DL650 3.5 12.4
800XC 5.6 12.7
F800GS 3.8 12.4

that 0-60 number on the 800XC doesn't look right to me, but that's what the websiter says. I would think it would be pretty equally matched to the BMW. What is surprising is that the DL650 is competitive with the 800's.
I saw a comparo, where the Glee-Stroms acceleration & 1/4 mile figures were pretty much on par with the F650GS twin (=800cc engine). The "real" F800GS has more top end, so I am a bit surprised, if it's not ahead.

But these bikes are not about performance numbers.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:42 AM   #15
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http://www.zeroto60times.com/Motorcy...mph-Times.html

according to this website:

0-60 1/4 mile
DL650 3.5 12.4
800XC 5.6 12.7
F800GS 3.8 12.4

that 0-60 number on the 800XC doesn't look right to me, but that's what the websiter says. I would think it would be pretty equally matched to the BMW. What is surprising is that the DL650 is competitive with the 800's.
I think those numbers illustrate the stupidly tall 1st gear on the tiger.
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