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Old 09-19-2012, 06:28 AM   #1
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Honda RC213V Road bike.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...-going-rc213v/

Doubt i'd be able to afford one, even if it does happen, but the idea that we could see a HRC V4 scream down Bray Hill once more makes me happy..
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:06 AM   #2
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:44 AM   #3
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MCN state that there will be an announcement on Friday regarding some form of production based CRT V4 race / road bike.

Another forum moots the oft rumoured V4 Fireblade as a possibility for 2014.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:08 PM   #4
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I gotta go find my mask and crowbar....

Cause I need to go rob a bank, maybe two, so I can afford it.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:37 PM   #5
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MCN state that there will be an announcement on Friday regarding some form of production based CRT V4 race / road bike.

Another forum moots the oft rumoured V4 Fireblade as a possibility for 2014.
I will be waiting for Friday's announcement, and will try to keep a logical point of view before & after they announce the news...

At this point production is at least pure speculation, and at most a huge shot of needed adreneline in Big Red's arsenal.

Logically, I would think it is very doubtful that the US will get this bike if the upcoming production of this bike is indeed a fact (soley based on American Honda Motorsports import history).

In either case of US importation or not - could this be a sign that Big Red is turning a corner?

Even so far as to say the perverbial 'giant awakening from its slumber'?

Was the DN-01 and Rune a serious slap to the face for Honda?

At the least its a nice thought, right?

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Old 09-20-2012, 07:18 AM   #6
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The story has vanished from their web site. Vapourware indeed...
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:14 PM   #7
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Oh my, if Honda resurected the v4 sport bike, that would be very nice.

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Old 09-21-2012, 05:27 AM   #8
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Looks like it's for real.

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...ing/21440.html

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...-honda-rc213v/

Straight from the Horses mouth at 10.13..

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/25565536

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:05 AM   #9
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It's got an aluminum twin spar frame. Not really a ground up motorcycle like the Ducati Desmosedici and Panigale.

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Old 09-21-2012, 07:24 AM   #10
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It's got an aluminum twin spar frame. Not really a ground up motorcycle like the Ducati Desmosedici and Panigale.

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Ducati's current motogp bike, as well as bikes from every other contestant in the series, use aluminum twin spar frames.

the desmosedici RR road bike used a, conventional for ducati, steel trellis.

I don't see how the presence or absence of any of these chassis paradigms demarcates a motorcycle as being "ground up" or not.
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Old 09-23-2012, 05:36 PM   #11
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:37 AM   #12
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That is incorrect. In both the desmosedici and panigale the engine is the frame. The desmosedici uses a steel trellis for mounting the head stock where the panigale uses folded steel plates. This reduces weight and frame flex improving handling and separating front and rear end tuning.

Quite different frame an aluminum twin spar frame that rigidly attaches front suspension, engine, and rear swing arm.

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what's your point? same is true for the ducs from the 916 onward, Honda VFR800/VTR1000, BMW's telelever R bikes, I'm sure others that don't come to mind.

Stressed member engines aren't so exotic, at the time of the desmosedici's construction ducati had been at it with the swingarm pivoting in the engine cases for a decade or so.

So, for Ducati, completely conventional.

It's another way to do things, and it's intrinsically a bit lighter than a twin spar pivot-to-headstock frame, but there are tuning issues that show up from time to time, and it isn't some sort of jet-age breakthrough, just a variation on a theme.

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Old 09-24-2012, 05:52 PM   #14
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That is incorrect. In both the desmosedici and panigale the engine is the frame. The desmosedici uses a steel trellis for mounting the head stock where the panigale uses folded steel plates. This reduces weight and frame flex improving handling and separating front and rear end tuning.

Quite different frame an aluminum twin spar frame that rigidly attaches front suspension, engine, and rear swing arm.

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Based on Ducati results the last couple seasons maybe they should give an aluminum twin spare frame a try.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:59 PM   #15
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That is incorrect. In both the desmosedici and panigale the engine is the frame. The desmosedici uses a steel trellis for mounting the head stock where the panigale uses folded steel plates. This reduces weight and frame flex improving handling and separating front and rear end tuning.

Quite different frame an aluminum twin spar frame that rigidly attaches front suspension, engine, and rear swing arm.

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You should know what you're talking about before showcasing your ignorance on the internet.

The road going version of the Desmosedici, the Desmosedici RR, has a trellis steel frame. If you don't know what a Desmosedici RR is, I'll tell you, it is the street legal bike that was sold in 2006 to the public, it is not the GP bike.


As far as GP Desmosedicis GP3, GP4, GP5, GP6, GP7 and GP8 used trellis frames.

GP9, GP10 and GP11 were the only bikes to use the carbon fiber monocoque frame... And they were a disaster.

GP12 is now using a twin spar aluminum frame...

The Panigale does use a monocoque frame, but it is no the same CF monocoque of the Desmosedici, instead it is aluminum.
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