Sold my GSA and am back on a KLR !!! - Page 11

PacificPT · 01-02-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

Nice bike! Have you managed to do something with the stock muffler?
It's even worse than the one on my DR650! ... and the sound is truly pathetic. I hate LOUD pipes ... but is there a sensible option for the KLR that sounds a little better and lightens the load a bit? I'm not a fan of mufflers that need re-packing ... like FMF and loud pipes bring "unwanted" attention!

The HOT ticket for the DR650 is using on older GSXR Titanium muffler. Mine was $50 ... plus $200 for the mid pipe to make it ft. Light, nice sound, lasts forever, no re-packing. ALL GOOD!

I am now using a Jardine with the quiet insert and steel wool stuffed into the spark arrestor and held in place with a wire cage to soften up the exhaust note. Saves about 12 - 13 pounds compared to the stock unit. The weight savings from the pipe and the Li - Ion battery adds up to just over 20 pounds...

GAS GUY · 01-02-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

Leo Vince are consistently doing very nice pipes for a variety of bikes. I first saw them back in around 2005 on DL1000 Stroms. Very Nice pipes. I used a Remus pipe on my Vstrom but the Leo Vince was nearly as good ... and less expensive by about $100.

They also make a very nice pipe for my "other" bike, my Triumph Tiger 1050.
Light, well made, not too loud. The Tiger one comes with a removable baffle.

And the Leo Vince pipe comes with a spark arrestor and a couple different baffle tubes, depending on what flow and nose level you want.
But, it does weigh 12 pounds, so those that want the lightest pipe may not like that.
Also, you don't repack it.

According to M-Tech, they say they dynoed it and it beat the FMF Q4.

GAS GUY · 01-02-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PacificPT

I am now using a Jardine with the quiet insert and steel wool stuffed into the spark arrestor and held in place with a wire cage to soften up the exhaust note. Saves about 12 - 13 pounds compared to the stock unit. The weight savings from the pipe and the Li - Ion battery adds up to just over 20 pounds...

According to Happy Trails web site the stock Klr muffler only weighs 12 lbs.I don't know if that is accurate though.

PacificPT · 01-02-2013, 05:18 PM

I will try to weigh the stock unit tonight when I get home. I did when I took it off last year, but want to check and make sure I am giving out the right numbers.

GAS GUY · 01-02-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PacificPT

I will try to weigh the stock unit tonight when I get home. I did when I took it off last year, but want to check and make sure I am giving out the right numbers.

Ok, that sounds interesting.I would like to know too.

GAS GUY · 01-03-2013, 11:01 AM

I decided to disassemble the shock for routine service and fluid change.The spring is a 500 in.lb. Eibach and is the firmest spring they currently sell for the KLR so I knew it was going to be tough to remove,and you have to compress it enough to get the collar out to allow the spring to come off.
I spent a few hours scrounging material and making a makeshift spring compressor.

It compressed the spring some but not enough to remove the collar.So I ended up having to run over to my friends house and use his shop press to remove the spring.
Then I could disassemble the shock after releasing the nitrogen pressure.
The fluid was toast and it only had about 10,000 miles on it.
I left some fluid in the picture so you could see how black and dirty it was.

This shock has been rebuilt before along with a 2 stage valve stack so the peening has already been removed from the top nut as you can see in the picture.So I can just remove it instead of having to grind first.

Here it is,with all the valving layed out.
The compression stack is in the bottom of the picture and the rebound stack is in the top of the picture.
You can see the 2 stage valving as the shims go from big to small and back to big in both sides.I measured and wrote down all the dimensions on the valving for future reference.
I ordered up a new seal head and fluid,so am waiting for that.
I would like to get a stock 2008+ shock and see what the stock valving looks like.If I find one for cheap I will pick it up and see.

fleshpiston · 01-03-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GAS GUY

According to Happy Trails web site the stock Klr muffler only weighs 12 lbs.I don't know if that is accurate though.

If it helps ......

I just weighed stock and the LV X3 on a crappy bathroom scale.

Stock ..... 10.5 lbs (missing small heat shield)

LV X3 ..... 6 lbs (with mid-pipe, seems only fair)

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GAS GUY · 01-03-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fleshpiston

If it helps ......

I just weighed stock and the LV X3 on a crappy bathroom scale.

Stock ..... 10.5 lbs (missing small heat shield)

LV X3 ..... 6 lbs (with mid-pipe, seems only fair)

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Thats odd, HT website says the stock pipe is 12 lbs.and the LV pipe is 12.1 lbs.It must be a typo.
Anyway thanks for posting that, it helps.
How do you like the LV muffler ?

fleshpiston · 01-03-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GAS GUY

Thats odd, HT website says the stock pipe is 12 lbs.and the LV pipe is 12.1 lbs.It must be a typo.
Anyway thanks for posting that, it helps.
How do you like the LV muffler ?

I haven't even used it yet, I got it because it's supposedly one of the quietest and for the mechanical baffle.

Oh, and saving 3.5 pounds apparently!

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GAS GUY · 01-03-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fleshpiston

I haven't even used it yet, I got it because it's supposedly one of the quietest and for the mechanical baffle.

Oh, and saving 3.5 pounds apparently!

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I like a quiet muffler on the Klr , I plan on running a LV this year also.

DirtDad · 01-03-2013, 08:59 PM

I got 12lbs for my stock exhaust, on my crude scale. I used a DG slip on, which is no where near as nice as the Leo. It is a little loud, but only 6 lbs. With the JD jet kit, air box mod, and slip on, it really woke up the bike.
After removing the license plate holder, and hardwar, foot pegs, and lighter handle bars, I lost about 14 lbs total including the slip on. I heard you can save up to 7 lbs using a lighter battery. That would be around 21 lbs total.
I noticed the difference with just the 14 lbs.

GAS GUY · 01-10-2013, 06:31 PM

I made up a aluminum plate and a gasket to eliminate the vacuum diaphragm assembly.

Adv Grifter · 01-10-2013, 06:56 PM

This one looked pretty good. The owner/builder used to post here ... probably got run off by KTM/BMW attack dogs who Love To Hate KLR's.

I think a lot can be shaved off by ditching the stock headlight and all the ancillary parts that support it. This guy did a nice job with better forks and shock too. The build is (I think) somewhere on ADV ... no idea where. Anyway ... just another creative direction to go with the trusty KLR! The bike above was NOT the final version ... it was still in progress.

GAS GUY · 01-11-2013, 08:23 AM

ADV GRIFTER,
I remember seeing that bike.I think it belonged to Sam M.
I think he ended up putting a versys engine in it,and then eventually moved on to something different completely,IIRC.

Byork · 01-12-2013, 02:43 PM

Gas Guy or anyone else listening,

I tried to search to find answers, but seeing as I am in the middle of doing the doo I'll just ask. Sorry if its redundant. (I'm asking on this thread because I find it better than any of the "KLR mod" threads. Good job Gas Guy!!)

I am upgrading to a torsion spring. I removed the stock extension spring without removing the inner case. Since the torsion spring goes outside the inner case, do I still need to remove it for anything?
Also, the "lever" that the stock extension spring was connected to is just floating on the shaft. Is this correct, I have basically just obsoleted that part and it remains on the shaft?

So basically, am I ok not removing the inner case if I've removed the spring? Thanks in advance. Maybe I can wrap this up tonight and move on to putting on my new chain.

BTW my stock spring had plenty of tension and travel, I almost closed it back up without changing it.

01-02-2013, 05:18 PM	#154
PacificPT Studly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Monterey, CA Oddometer: 935	I will try to weigh the stock unit tonight when I get home. I did when I took it off last year, but want to check and make sure I am giving out the right numbers. __________________ 2000 KLR650 There's roads and there's roads and they call, can't you hear it? Roads of the earth and roads of the spirit. The best roads of all are the ones that aren't certain. One of those is where you'll find me till they drop the big curtain. Bruce Cockburn

01-03-2013, 11:01 AM	#156
GAS GUY ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Garden city, Michigan Oddometer: 2,046	Shock disassembly and service I decided to disassemble the shock for routine service and fluid change.The spring is a 500 in.lb. Eibach and is the firmest spring they currently sell for the KLR so I knew it was going to be tough to remove,and you have to compress it enough to get the collar out to allow the spring to come off. I spent a few hours scrounging material and making a makeshift spring compressor. It compressed the spring some but not enough to remove the collar.So I ended up having to run over to my friends house and use his shop press to remove the spring. Then I could disassemble the shock after releasing the nitrogen pressure. The fluid was toast and it only had about 10,000 miles on it. I left some fluid in the picture so you could see how black and dirty it was. This shock has been rebuilt before along with a 2 stage valve stack so the peening has already been removed from the top nut as you can see in the picture.So I can just remove it instead of having to grind first. Here it is,with all the valving layed out. The compression stack is in the bottom of the picture and the rebound stack is in the top of the picture. You can see the 2 stage valving as the shims go from big to small and back to big in both sides.I measured and wrote down all the dimensions on the valving for future reference. I ordered up a new seal head and fluid,so am waiting for that. I would like to get a stock 2008+ shock and see what the stock valving looks like.If I find one for cheap I will pick it up and see. __________________ 2008 KLR 705 2001 GAS GAS 321

01-03-2013, 08:59 PM	#161
DirtDad Green Chile Guru Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque NM Oddometer: 1,447	I got 12lbs for my stock exhaust, on my crude scale. I used a DG slip on, which is no where near as nice as the Leo. It is a little loud, but only 6 lbs. With the JD jet kit, air box mod, and slip on, it really woke up the bike. After removing the license plate holder, and hardwar, foot pegs, and lighter handle bars, I lost about 14 lbs total including the slip on. I heard you can save up to 7 lbs using a lighter battery. That would be around 21 lbs total. I noticed the difference with just the 14 lbs. __________________ Current rides: 1999 KX500 Dez Sled 05 KTM300EXC 2011 KLR650

01-10-2013, 06:31 PM	#162
GAS GUY ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Garden city, Michigan Oddometer: 2,046	Petcock Mod I made up a aluminum plate and a gasket to eliminate the vacuum diaphragm assembly. __________________ 2008 KLR 705 2001 GAS GAS 321

01-10-2013, 06:56 PM	#163
Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Passing ADV Stalkers On The Inside Oddometer: 5,377	Light weight KLR? This one looked pretty good. The owner/builder used to post here ... probably got run off by KTM/BMW attack dogs who Love To Hate KLR's. I think a lot can be shaved off by ditching the stock headlight and all the ancillary parts that support it. This guy did a nice job with better forks and shock too. The build is (I think) somewhere on ADV ... no idea where. Anyway ... just another creative direction to go with the trusty KLR! The bike above was NOT the final version ... it was still in progress.

01-11-2013, 08:23 AM	#164
GAS GUY ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Garden city, Michigan Oddometer: 2,046	ADV GRIFTER, I remember seeing that bike.I think it belonged to Sam M. I think he ended up putting a versys engine in it,and then eventually moved on to something different completely,IIRC. __________________ 2008 KLR 705 2001 GAS GAS 321

01-12-2013, 02:43 PM	#165
Byork Novice Joined: Aug 2009 Location: NW IN Oddometer: 106	Doo Gas Guy or anyone else listening, I tried to search to find answers, but seeing as I am in the middle of doing the doo I'll just ask. Sorry if its redundant. (I'm asking on this thread because I find it better than any of the "KLR mod" threads. Good job Gas Guy!!) I am upgrading to a torsion spring. I removed the stock extension spring without removing the inner case. Since the torsion spring goes outside the inner case, do I still need to remove it for anything? Also, the "lever" that the stock extension spring was connected to is just floating on the shaft. Is this correct, I have basically just obsoleted that part and it remains on the shaft? So basically, am I ok not removing the inner case if I've removed the spring? Thanks in advance. Maybe I can wrap this up tonight and move on to putting on my new chain. BTW my stock spring had plenty of tension and travel, I almost closed it back up without changing it. __________________ '06 Vulcan 900

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