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Old 11-08-2012, 09:12 AM   #301
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Hey!...we don't want your kind around here. We have standards...no matter how low they are.

Speaking of secession, Since the election I've been waiting for evidence of a concerted effort by some in this state to pursue the mythical "right of secession" that many believe Texas has in its agreement with the U.S. when it agreed to annexation back in the day. I've been holed up in my bunker for the last few days only coming out long enough to check on a couple of helicopters I've heard overhead.

Bunker? I thought you had an entire "Compound".
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:13 AM   #302
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:15 AM   #303
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Hey!...we don't want your kind around here. We have standards...no matter how low they are.

Speaking of secession, Since the election I've been waiting for evidence of a concerted effort by some in this state to pursue the mythical "right of secession" that many believe Texas has in its agreement with the U.S. when it agreed to annexation back in the day. I've been holed up in my bunker for the last few days only coming out long enough to check on a couple of helicopters I've heard overhead.

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Old 11-08-2012, 09:26 AM   #304
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It's funny on the "clean renewables" that everyone always raves about. Even though Texas is known as an oil state, we've had wind power developing here for many years and produce more wind power than any other state. I can look out from my house in the country and see wind farms on the horizon in 3 different directions and also see 5 oil wells pumping. It's the smart thing to do...pursue just about all of it. And of course, the Pickens plan involves both natural gas and wind. Hmmm...that almost sounds like a joke.
Wind power in Texas is being developed but also highly touted and the touted and developed stuff was developed with federal support (and the foresight of Florida Power and Light). My brother in law is involved in a pyramid scheme to swipe people's money touting wind power (and I have told him as much ). Now about natural gas legislation, don't you like the combo of T. Boone and Harry Reid, which is backed by the Pres (not his job to make legislation, just sign it).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1340066.html
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:27 AM   #305
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Isn't there a Texas forum?

Show some respect for the President.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:47 AM   #306
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Show some respect for the President.
Ageed.

I don't vote for him, but he's still my President and I call him President Obama.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:51 AM   #307
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Wind power in Texas is being developed but also highly touted and the touted and developed stuff was developed with federal support (and the foresight of Florida Power and Light). My brother in law is involved in a pyramid scheme to swipe people's money touting wind power (and I have told him as much ). Now about natural gas legislation, don't you like the combo of T. Boone and Harry Reid, which is backed by the Pres (not his job to make legislation, just sign it).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1340066.html
Frankly I think Harry Reid is a retard, but I don't give a rat's patootie...yes, I had to check that spelling in Google...who teams up with who as long as they get the job done. T. Boone may be a Texan, but he's been a bit of an A-hole over the years too, but I agree with many of his pursuits in the wind and natural gas energy efforts. Man, around here the electricity produced by our wind farms has required a huge power distribution infrastructure upgrade...a good thing overall. I know quite a few people in my area associated with the wind farm boom over the years and not just construction folks. While wind energy obviously can't stand alone to supply the grid, it's a truly viable component of energy production in my area. I'm wondering when the next technological breakthrough might involve an ability for power storage to make it an even better source. Maybe a pipe dream I know, but some pipe dreams have come to fruition over time. We're going to have to think outside the box to achieve energy independence, and even that pursuit is probably a pipe dream.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:04 AM   #308
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Yeah, all the right wingers in Springs and Texas seem to keep pulling this toward a CSM topic.
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The point of my first post was to point out the fallacy of one of the GOP slogans. They would prefer to blame everything bad on the current administration, while claiming individual initiative for all positive changes.

Can't have it both ways Jeff. Although I find the conversation that FatChance, TNC and Doc are having very interesting and informative.

On the other hand I have been thinking about a 300 for quite a while now, need to get a newer bike for Meg first, but want something other then the 500 for harder single track and how is the 300 at the moto track? Also any different to get them plated?
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:05 AM   #309
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Frankly I think Harry Reid is a retard, but I don't give a rat's patootie...yes, I had to check that spelling in Google...who teams up with who as long as they get the job done. T. Boone may be a Texan, but he's been a bit of an A-hole over the years too, but I agree with many of his pursuits in the wind and natural gas energy efforts. Man, around here the electricity produced by our wind farms has required a huge power distribution infrastructure upgrade...a good thing overall. I know quite a few people in my area associated with the wind farm boom over the years and not just construction folks. While wind energy obviously can't stand alone to supply the grid, it's a truly viable component of energy production in my area. I'm wondering when the next technological breakthrough might involve an ability for power storage to make it an even better source. Maybe a pipe dream I know, but some pipe dreams have come to fruition over time. We're going to have to think outside the box to achieve energy independence, and even that pursuit is probably a pipe dream.
Regarding the highlighted text, I wasn't aware that the two were mutually exclusive. I'll leave it at that

Re: storage, that is the big challenge. We need an inexpensive and recyclable battery technology. Amounts of Lithium are finite and not cost effective. A technology based on a plentiful element would be huge (carbon? ). Incremental advances continue, but large break thrus are what is needed. Any storage based on a thermodynamic cycle is inherently low efficiency. It really needs to be a chemical storage system.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:16 AM   #310
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And don't forget solar power, where some new breakthroughs are probably coming just like in integrated circuit development in the 70s to 90s. Also I worked in geothermal energy exploration and there is still a big resource in places like Nevada which can be developed. Here is my view of the energy future:
1)transition from coal and oil to natural gas
2)wind and solar energy research, development, and funding
3)geothermal energy as a fill in source and as a means to grow food in the wintertime
4)many more nuclear fission plants, which is a main key to energy stability
5)long term research and final development of fusion energy
6)strong efforts to reduce overall energy useage through efficient homes, cars, and industrial requirements
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:36 AM   #311
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Isn't there a Texas forum?

Show some respect for the President.
Sure, as soon as the President shows some respect for this country.

and yea, there's a central states section, but I'm closer to the rockies than I am the mid west
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:40 AM   #312
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Sure, as soon as the President shows some respect for this country.
keeping the discussion cordial and facts based is probably the only thing that keeps this thread civil and from being punted.

Name calling of the elected President and lack of respect given the title is a slippery slope that will only divide people.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:40 AM   #313
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Now about natural gas legislation, don't you like the combo of T. Boone and Harry Reid, which is backed by the Pres (not his job to make legislation, just sign it).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1340066.html
Doc - Of course the president does not make legislation, I never said he did. But presidents are expected to initiate, promote and lead the legislative process to get their agenda to fruition unless they want to totally rely on Executive Orders. Obamacare is a prime example of a president leading and getting his agenda passed by congress.. That was passed by both houses (without a single Republican vote, BTW) because it was Mr. Obama's over-riding passion (at the expense of focusing on the economy as he had promised the last time he was elected, IMHO). So, in a real sense, he did make that legislation reality.

The article you cited was 8 months old. Is there any update on any progress on that proposal? I would welcome the president to focus on the economy and realistic energy independence (especially natural gas) with the same zeal he displayed with Obamacare. That is what a leader is supposed to do if he believes in the issue and intends to back up his words with action.
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keeping the discussion cordial and facts based is probably the only thing that keeps this thread civil and from being punted.

Name calling of the elected President and lack of respect given the title is a slippery slope that will only divide people.
My apologies to the civil
You are correct, the name calling, if any, should be done in the basement. I'll go back to reading
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:37 AM   #315
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In his second term, Obama will no longer be able to blame Bush any more. It is completely up to him now to show that he is a leader and able to bring people together like he promised in 2008 (and has failed at totally).

The most effective presidents were able to work with the other side and get things done. Reagan worked with Tip O'Neil and Ted Kennedy, Clinton worked with a Republican congress. Obama has been the most derisive president since Nixon, but even Nixon was able to get bipartisan legislation passed, including civil rights and environmental protection. The only thing Obama has done is Obamacare without a single republican vote. Will he rise to the occasion or remain a petty Chicago machine politician? It is up to him now.
You've made the reference to "most derisive president since Nixon" three times. What is your basis for this? Do you have some quantifiable measure, or is this simply your opinion? Sometimes you've stated derisive, other times divisive. They are somewhat different.

Every time I hear statements like this repeated, I start to suspect that the author is simply repeating something he heard elsewhere. If so, this falls into the category of "repeat something often and loudly and others will start to take it as fact".
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