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Old 10-27-2012, 05:06 PM   #31
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To get turn by turn routing you will need a route-able map like City Navigator or 24K topo maps (about $90 per region). For trails, the 24K topo maps will give you more options.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:09 AM   #32
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:17 AM   #33
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OK, I can be dense sometimes but I've read through this thread a couple of times and think I have it down now, just like to confirm.

A few ebay sellers are selling the Montana, newly refurbished w/ 1 yr warranty and that's the direction I'm leaning.
I don't need a camera.

650T comes with Topo maps installed but don't know if they're 24k or 100k (I would want the 24k per these threads). If the Topo is the 100k it would make sense to buy the 600 and add the Topo 24k card.

I would want the City Navigator card for use on the street.

Does it make sense to have the 2 cards and just swap them out when going off-road?
Or, if the City Navigator was loaded on the 600 could you just install the Topo 24k card and use that, then remove the Topo card to revert back to City Navigator?
Basicly, if you have CN loaded on the 600 and you insert the Topo 24k card would you have to re-load CN when you remove the Topo card?

I've owned several Garmins going back to a GPSmap 76 but I've never used a map card in any of them so I don't understand how the card impacts pre-installed maps..

Thanks for the info you guys have contributed to these threads.

EDIT: Ok, read in a couple of other threads NOT to get the card map data but to get the DVD. Does this allow switching between map types?
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:27 AM   #34
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650T comes with Topo maps installed but don't know if they're 24k or 100k (I would want the 24k per these threads). If the Topo is the 100k it would make sense to buy the 600 and add the Topo 24k card.

I would want the City Navigator card for use on the street.

Does it make sense to have the 2 cards and just swap them out when going off-road?
Or, if the City Navigator was loaded on the 600 could you just install the Topo 24k card and use that, then remove the Topo card to revert back to City Navigator?
Basicly, if you have CN loaded on the 600 and you insert the Topo 24k card would you have to re-load CN when you remove the Topo card?

I've owned several Garmins going back to a GPSmap 76 but I've never used a map card in any of them so I don't understand how the card impacts pre-installed maps..

Thanks for the info you guys have contributed to these threads.
1. the 650t comes with 100K topo maps installed on the unit
2. I would suggest buying CN on the DVD and loading it to the Montana with an expander SD card. Same with any 24K maps. You can use a big capacity card and have all your maps available.
3. Use multiple profiles on the Montana. For road use, have CN maps enabled. For offroad use, have a separate profile with the CN map disabled, but with your 24K maps enabled. Switching between profiles is easy, and can be made one-tap easy by using shortcuts.
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:05 PM   #35
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A few ebay sellers are selling the Montana, newly refurbished w/ 1 yr warranty and that's the direction I'm leaning.
I don't need a camera.
Check this out first before you buy from an eBay seller.
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:54 PM   #36
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I accidentally threw my 12 year old beloved GPSMAP 60 away in the trash can!
Planned on getting the new 62s but all the talk about the Montana. . .
I use it solely for off road riding and do not need a camera or voice routing.

My questions with the Montana are:
1. Touch screen not easy to operate with gloves ( I had etip gloves they are crap IMO)

2. It's kinda big unit for a small dirt bike

3. I'm very used to the 62s size and I already have a cradle

Looked at the Montana today, it was very fancy. rool

Cabelas has it on sale for about $90 more than the 62s
I'm going to buy it probably tomorrow

Hmmm

Sorry theres like 900000 pages of discussion (I cant read it all) on this unit so it must be good. . .right?
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:56 PM   #37
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I accidentally threw my 12 year old beloved GPSMAP 60 away in the trash can!
Planned on getting the new 62s but all the talk about the Montana. . .
I use it solely for off road riding and do not need a camera or voice routing.

My questions with the Montana are:
1. Touch screen not easy to operate with gloves ( I had etip gloves they are crap IMO)

2. It's kinda big unit for a small dirt bike

3. I'm very used to the 62s size and I already have a cradle

Looked at the Montana today, it was very fancy. rool

Cabelas has it on sale for about $90 more than the 62s
I'm going to buy it probably tomorrow

Hmmm
1. Yes. Quite friendly. Its a resistive touchscreen, this type relies on screen layers contacting each other for the signal. If you're too hamfisted, rig a pencil stub on a lanyard and use the eraser end to stab at the screen.

2. Yes, it is big. Can't help you there.

3. The mount you've got may be worth something on the Flea Market? Dunno...
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:09 PM   #38
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I accidentally threw my 12 year old beloved GPSMAP 60 away in the trash can!
Planned on getting the new 62s but all the talk about the Montana. . .
I use it solely for off road riding and do not need a camera or voice routing.

My questions with the Montana are:
1. Touch screen not easy to operate with gloves ( I had etip gloves they are crap IMO)

2. It's kinda big unit for a small dirt bike

3. I'm very used to the 62s size and I already have a cradle

Looked at the Montana today, it was very fancy. rool

Cabelas has it on sale for about $90 more than the 62s
I'm going to buy it probably tomorrow

Hmmm

Sorry theres like 900000 pages of discussion (I cant read it all) on this unit so it must be good. . .right?
The Montana's hardly any bigger than the 62 series.



Think of it this way: if you buy the 62 you'll always wonder if you should've bought the Montana. If you buy the Montana, you'll never think you should have got the 62.

But the Montana really is far better than all the alternatives right now as long as you don't need Bluetooth and Media Players.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:29 PM   #39
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Thanks, I knew you guys would say that!
plus it's my barf-day next week.

Going to Cabelas tonight. BTW if you ever find yourself near one got check it out. Disneyland for the outdoorsman.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:32 PM   #40
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1. the 650t comes with 100K topo maps installed on the unit
2. I would suggest buying CN on the DVD and loading it to the Montana with an expander SD card. Same with any 24K maps. You can use a big capacity card and have all your maps available.
3. Use multiple profiles on the Montana. For road use, have CN maps enabled. For offroad use, have a separate profile with the CN map disabled, but with your 24K maps enabled. Switching between profiles is easy, and can be made one-tap easy by using shortcuts.
Why thank you kind sirs!

I already have (more than) a few SD and micro SD cards lying around. I'll find out what the biggest/fastest the Montana will support and use that. Thanks again for the info on the dual profiles, that is outstanding.

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Thanks for that. I was going to buy a refurb unit from one of the stores that has a warranty (that I can confirm) anyway. I will check Garmin's ebay store first.

Huh, jusst checked Garmin's website and the Montana 600 detail, it mentions the micro SD card but doesn't say what the max size or recommended speed for the card. Does it state it in the owner's manual?
*** Found on GPS City's Q&A section that Garmin says the 6xx's will accept up to 32g microSD card but GPS City says it slows the GPS down considerably if you use anything larger than 8g. ***

OK, found my way to the "Wisdom and FAQ" thread and to the GPS City web site. I've got some reading to do!
Thanks for the links!
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:12 PM   #41
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Why thank you kind sirs!

I already have (more than) a few SD and micro SD cards lying around. I'll find out what the biggest/fastest the Montana will support and use that. Thanks again for the info on the dual profiles, that is outstanding.

Thanks for that. I was going to buy a refurb unit from one of the stores that has a warranty (that I can confirm) anyway. I will check Garmin's ebay store first.

Huh, jusst checked Garmin's website and the Montana 600 detail, it mentions the micro SD card but doesn't say what the max size or recommended speed for the card. Does it state it in the owner's manual?

OK, found my way to the "Wisdom and FAQ" thread and to the GPS City web site. I've got some reading to do!
Thanks for the links!
I've heard of people using the 32 gigabyte uSD cards but have only used 16s myself. There doesn't seem much reason to go higher than that unless you already have a 32 kicking around.

Personally I'd rather have two identical 16 gig cards in case one should be corrupted. I keep my second card taped to the battery. (I once gave away my twinned card to an ADV Inmate from the US who was riding this area but didn't have maps - he gave me an empty one in return)

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does the montana have any internet or wi fi capabilty?Ie how do you get the pics of the camera?USB only?
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does the montana have any internet or wi fi capabilty?Ie how do you get the pics of the camera?USB only?
Neither internet nor wifi. It has a form of wireless transfer to 'like' devices but it's relatively slow. Getting pics off is a usb only affair, unless you save them to the uSD card and take that out of the gps.
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Neither internet nor wifi. It has a form of wireless transfer to 'like' devices but it's relatively slow. Getting pics off is a usb only affair, unless you save them to the uSD card and take that out of the gps.
hmm i wonder if one of these would work?
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hmm i wonder if one of these would work?
Nope. They don't make them in Micro SD format. I have 2 of the EyeFi cards myself. EyeFi does work in a GoPro, though.
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