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Old 04-04-2014, 08:02 AM   #1891
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Realistically the new 1000 cc is not going to get as good of gas mileage as the 650, no matter how you drive it. I think if you consistently average in that 42-45 US gallon on the 1000cc you'll do fine. Also it calls for premium fuel.

There is a lot of suspension work you can do that is not that expensive, if you feel that is a requirement.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:22 AM   #1892
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Power, especially 2-up, and lower revs at highway cruising speed. Otherwise, I agree.
I bitched about highway revs on my 650 for a while. Then I went +1 on the countershaft sprocket when I replaced my chain. All better. I can cruise all day at ticketable speeds with the 650cc sewing machine between my knees just humming along.

I don't 2-up at all. Although I am a good sized boy and often carry stuff with me. Still, you have me on the 2-up bit. I'm sure the 1k is a better 2-up machine.

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may be a dumb question, but do you see anyone BUT the journalists report the gas mileage yet..?? I´ve seen big differences on those before.

But if you want a seriously economic bike, get a Honda NC700X. The brand new Wee´s not far away, though.
I can't find any now. But I swear I've seen a few initial reports from early adopters that mirrored the journalists reports. Fuelly, my usual go-to source for this data, doesn't have any figures for 2014 DL1k's yet.

Maybe you're right. Maybe the stuff reported thus far is BS and the bike does substantially better on gas. But so far it's the data I have to go on.

Honestly, 49MPG seems like a lot from a liter bike. I was pretty astonished (and excited) when I first read it. But it seems too good to be true. .. Although I've heard several first hand reports that the Tiger Explorer 1200 nets about 50 MPG in tour mode. So.

As to the 'seriously economic' bit. I'll reiterate; my concern is not dollars and cents. Anyone that plunks down $13-14,000 on a new motorcycle because it will save them a few cents at the pump each fillup sucks at doing math. That money will buy a crapload of gas!

My concern is about range. I've gotten used to the 250-300 mile range on the DL650. It's just awesome. The idea of having that kind of range AND the upgrades is great! I just don't think the DL1k delivers.


Just makes one think twice about upgrading.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:00 AM   #1893
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I bitched about highway revs on my 650 for a while. Then I went +1 on the countershaft sprocket when I replaced my chain. All better. I can cruise all day at ticketable speeds with the 650cc sewing machine between my knees just humming along.

I don't 2-up at all. Although I am a good sized boy and often carry stuff with me. Still, you have me on the 2-up bit. I'm sure the 1k is a better 2-up machine.
I'm just pointing out the reality for those concerned w/such. I have a Versys, also +1 on the cs sprocket. It is most enjoyable most anywhere riding solo and more than adequate for even 2-up. I do it regularly. Having said that, were I to only have a bike or two and/or put a priority on 2-up/highway travel, I'd definitely go for more displacement. Probably...I do love good gas mileage and the cheaper costs of the smaller bikes.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:25 AM   #1894
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:35 AM   #1895
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I have to say I am in awe at the fuel mileage that people here seem to get on thier Stroms, especially their DL650's.

I have read people consistantly getting 60 mpg US on their DL650's. Over almost 126,000 miles on my 2006 DL650 it has averaged almost 46 mpg US. My best mileage over three tanks was 56 mpg US but this was very very easy riding in ideal conditions. Over 51,502 miles my 2012 DL650 has averaged 49.4 mpg US and the best mileage over three tanks was about 62 mpg US. (The 0.58% error the 2012+ DL650 Odometer has in its conversion of Miles to KM certainly doesnt account for it!)



Please let me know how you guys do it!

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Old 04-04-2014, 09:37 AM   #1896
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I've heard several first hand reports that the Tiger Explorer 1200 nets about 50 MPG in tour mode.

Last summer I traveled to Alaska with a gent who has a '12 Explorer 1200. At highway speeds (65-70mph) he would be lucky to get 38-39 mpgUS. We jokingly said the Triumph had RDS.. Range Deficiency Syndrome.. Maybe just Maybe 195 to 210 miles on a tank..He rolled into Coldfoot with NO gas…just fumes dead engine. My '12wee got over 250 miles on a tank doing the same speeds over the same terrain… Both bikes loaded for a long trip, no camping.
To get 50 mpgUS they probably went 50 mph.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:35 AM   #1897
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I am hyper-anal about tracking fuel consumption. I use fuelly, and as such my numbers are publicly available. My two worst recorded tanks were when I tanked up immediately after doing a track day on the bike. Both times I got 40-41 MPG. This is flogging the bike as hard as I dared at a race-track. The next worse tank was after doing the ARC course; basically riding around a parking lot all day doing rider training drills.

Outside of those three, my worst recorded tank is ~48 MPG. My best is nearly 63 MPG. All reported in miles per US gallon. I have four tanks recorded over 300 miles of range.. I should have more, but I work in MA where gas is substantially more expensive, so I will sometimes splash a couple gallons in just to get home. This screws that statistic up a bit thanks to how fuelly handles partial fillups.

My DL650 is extremely efficient and gets superb range. I have no idea what I am doing right and you are doing wrong.


I would be more than willing to give up 10-15% of that range for more powah, better suspension, brakes, and a more comfortable bike. This is, I feel, what Suzuki has advertised. The million dollar question is; did they deliver?

I am not willing to give up 30% or more of that range.

I'm also holding out hope for a nicely apportioned offering from Yamaha based on the FZ/MT-09.
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:34 PM   #1898
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Yes, mpg depends on how hard you ride it. My '11 Wee averages mid 50's on the back roads . . . My previous '07 Vee would average low 40's commuting . . . Mid 40's on trips. My '05 SV1000 would average 45 mpg.

The new Vee2 (when broken in) should do mid 40's if you don't push it hard and do not have a lot of stop-n-go riding.

Not sure how the mfg does mpg testing? If it is at low rpm in high gear on the highway . . . It probably will hit 50 mpg.

So far one report for 3 fuel ups:

https://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/su...strom%20dl1000

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Old 04-04-2014, 03:16 PM   #1899
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Yes, mpg depends on how hard you ride it. My '11 Wee averages mid 50's on the back roads . . . My previous '07 Vee would average low 40's commuting . . . Mid 40's on trips. My '05 SV1000 would average 45 mpg.

The new Vee2 (when broken in) should do mid 40's if you don't push it hard and do not have a lot of stop-n-go riding.

Not sure how the mfg does mpg testing? If it is at low rpm in high gear on the highway . . . It probably will hit 50 mpg.

So far one report for 3 fuel ups:

https://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/su...strom%20dl1000

42.5 mpg (US gallon) translates to 51.1 MPG (UK gallon). I have just got back from a 50 mile ride on our new V-Strom 1000 demo bike and, allowing for taking it a bit easy on brand new tyres. it's showing an average 58mpg (UK) on the clocks.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:23 PM   #1900
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:04 PM   #1901
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:45 AM   #1902
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ALL the design changes in the 14 Vee address former weaknesses inherent in the first gen, up to and including aerodynamic down force, from the DR Big derived front beak.

You want serious offroad capabilities, cough up the extra $5000 for a niche market KTM.

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Old 04-05-2014, 07:16 AM   #1903
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turning off ABS on new V Strom

The new edition of Cycle World has a very interesting comment on disabling the ABS on the new Zook. It can be done by pulling the fuse (of course) or by doing a "big wheelie" but that only works until you turn the bike off then it resets.
Can anyone explain how doing a wheelie would disable the ABS?
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:27 AM   #1904
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The ABS system works by sensing differences in wheel speeds between the front and rear wheels. Any delta in wheel speeds while breaking will trigger the ABS on the wheel turning slower, because it is likely sliding. Lofting the front for a while and getting it stopped while still rolling probably confuses the ABS computer and puts it in some sort of error mode, effectively disabling it.

That's my guess, anyway.

Kind of a funny bug in the ABS software. The software engineer in me is chuckling.

I wonder what doing a burnout with the front clamped does on one of these things. I've never tried it on my ABS wee.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:35 AM   #1905
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Kind of a funny bug in the ABS software. The software engineer in me is chuckling.

And the gear head in me is wondering how hard would it be to put a füçñ on/off switch?
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