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View Results: Will you buy the new KTM 1190?
1190R - Hell yeah, and I'm going to make it bigger, better and badder! 75 18.07%
1190 - Yup, been waiting for this one. 150hp and 17/19s will KILL! 60 14.46%
Multistrada - I've gone/going for better street performance/electronics 5 1.20%
BMW GS - I like big heavy bikes - Go Charlie! Go Ewan! 9 2.17%
NO! I'm keeping my 950/990 forever (along with my typewriter, corded phone, film camera...) 196 47.23%
Really? We need a poll about this? 70 16.87%
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:46 AM   #76
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Too much weight and HP for off road IMHO.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:52 AM   #77
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new 900 adv

I spoke with my local dealer today, the told me ktm is going to make a new smaler adv bike, 900 cc max, ligher ( and ceaper ) then the 1190. it's going to be ready in 2 years and the price should be around 10.0000.
It'll be based on a new engine, I guess the intention is to compete with the f 800 gs ...
(I was there to see my new 1190 R)
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:02 PM   #78
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I spoke with my local dealer today, the told me ktm is going to make a new smaler adv bike, 900 cc max, ligher ( and ceaper ) then the 1190. it's going to be ready in 2 years and the price should be around 10.0000.
It'll be based on a new engine, I guess the intention is to compete with the f 800 gs ...
(I was there to see my new 1190 R)
Lots of people say that they want 800 ish because it's lighter. And I'd agree that giving up 10% power to drop 100lbs would be a good trade. But it seems that it's never easy to give up weight, other wise a 650 would weigh 300lbs. So do we get a light bike because it's 800cc? One of the posts says the 1190 will be 500lbs full of fuel. So that's nearly the same as the 990. I love my 950 so then the 1190 not so bad. But the cost? So can I have a new 950/990? No Ok now where are we? A 900 that's even just a little lighter and a little cheaper and if only 0 to 10% down on power. Yes that's an answer.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:41 AM   #79
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Lots of people say that they want 800 ish because it's lighter. And I'd agree that giving up 10% power to drop 100lbs would be a good trade. But it seems that it's never easy to give up weight, other wise a 650 would weigh 300lbs. So do we get a light bike because it's 800cc? One of the posts says the 1190 will be 500lbs full of fuel. So that's nearly the same as the 990. I love my 950 so then the 1190 not so bad. But the cost? So can I have a new 950/990? No Ok now where are we? A 900 that's even just a little lighter and a little cheaper and if only 0 to 10% down on power. Yes that's an answer.
The immpession I got is that the new 800/900 adv is met to be ceaper then the 1190, this would mean tha the components won't be as good as on the 1190.
by the way, saturday I played around with the new R, sitting and moving it around and it feels lighte then the 990. it was standing next to a 990 adv dakar anf it looked smaller and thiner, especially the rear....
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:53 AM   #80
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Igor...I assume you tried it ON road....
may be I'm wrong
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:57 AM   #81
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I'll take a 2010 and up 990 with 2009 and older S suspension with an RC8 engine and EFI. Thanks.

Personally I'd buy the 950 they were using for Dakar, didn't it have like a foot of travel? I'd probably kill myself on one but hey I'd be doing what I love!!!!!!
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM   #82
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The 990 is almost too much for the type of riding I do so I know that the 1190 will be too much. Too much weight, girth, and even power...like many have mentioned I will keep what I have until they release an 800. I looked at BMW 1200GS once and I can't imagine getting it off the road. It would take a crew to pick it up if it fell over.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:07 AM   #83
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Seen it in real life yesterday and my answer is: no

Maybe the R version, still have to see that one.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:45 AM   #84
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I'm going to buy one once some start hitting the used market in the US which I would expect would be fall of 2014 at the latest. I've already put the wheels in motion as I recently sold my FJR and purchased a much cheaper bike to bide the time and save up some money over the next year or two. .
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:04 AM   #85
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Never say never but right now no plans to buy an 1190. Every time I see the words "Orange Crush" I think about a big adventure bike falling on my leg out on a trail somewhere For now I am very happy with my 690r for off road and my 990 Supermoto for on road hooligan fun. That doesn't stop me from reading about the new 1190 and the new GS though!
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:35 PM   #86
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My opinion is that when it comes to ADV bikes bigger does not equal better. Personally I wouldn't buy a 1190, at least not as a "do it all" bike. I might consider owning one if I was planning to ride mostly paved along with some gravel or easy trails here and there. This thread was the first I've heard of a rumored 800-ish cc adv bike from KTM. I've always liked the idea of ADV bikes around that size and consider that to be about the right size for a bike capable of doing everything relatively well. If they do in fact plan on making one I would be excited to see what they come up with. Not that I would buy one right away though.... For now I'm sticking with my 950 SE.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:19 AM   #87
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No way - they've gone the completely wrong way for me.

The new bike is bigger, heavier, more powerful, more expensive and more plasticky.

I wanted smaller, lighter, nimbler, less plasticky and couldn't care less if it was less powerful to be honest.

The reason I bought a 990 Adv in the first place was because I wanted a good off-road chassi and something more powerful than a thumper.

The might be able to lure over a few 1200 GS owners with this and I suspect that was the goal. But I'm still waiting for my ultimate all-round lightweight 600-800cc twin adventure bike.

700cc V-twin, 60-70bhp, 170 kg fully fueled, real off-road chassi - that would be the bomb.
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:44 AM   #88
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As it gets closer for me to replace the 990 i have started to think what would i replace it with. over the past couple of years there have been several new manufactures entering into the adventure market and a few new choices.

Important to me, not in any specific order, weight, range, fuel, serviceability, the ability to go off road. The new model falls short in a couple of the areas, as well now i would get to pay more for insurance due to the larger displacement. But it might be happier parked next to the beemer at starbucks on the weekend coffee run.

So what other options are there, triumph, moto guzzi, ducati, yamaha, or the BMW all made primarily for the road based adventure touring.
so for now i will keep the 990 do the maintenance and continue to enjoy the ride until something better comes around.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:05 AM   #89
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As it gets closer for me to replace the 990 i have started to think what would i replace it with. over the past couple of years there have been several new manufactures entering into the adventure market and a few new choices.

Important to me, not in any specific order, weight, range, fuel, serviceability, the ability to go off road. The new model falls short in a couple of the areas, as well now i would get to pay more for insurance due to the larger displacement. But it might be happier parked next to the beemer at starbucks on the weekend coffee run.

So what other options are there, triumph, moto guzzi, ducati, yamaha, or the BMW all made primarily for the road based adventure touring.
so for now i will keep the 990 do the maintenance and continue to enjoy the ride until something better comes around.
+1. The 1190 is just too much for my needs. I'd much prefer something in the 750-800cc range with styling cues from Dakar bikes. After getting the 1190 on the street, I'm hoping that KTM goes back and develops a bike that competes directly with the 800cc market. The most appealing bike to me anywhere right now is the KTM 690 with the Defy Quest modifications:

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Old 03-07-2013, 07:05 AM   #90
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The SE will be staying for the forseealbe future. Have never not enjoyed riding it.

Big O needs to take two of there new 350's, slap em together and BAM.....700 Super Enduro that shares many, many more parts with the dirt side, to keep maintenance and repair costs within acceptable levels.

The Uly is a cheap, reliable, efficient, torquey street/commuter that also affords some fun in the twisties.
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