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Old 10-09-2012, 02:03 PM   #1
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Reasonable price for R65?

1983 R65 with 20k miles, for $2900 obo. Comes with hard bags, rebuilt forks, replaced ignition and usual maintenance, normal wear and tear--tach stopped working. Feel free to have a closer look here: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/3245964709.html

Been lurking quite a bit, it's a great forum! Also probably the reason why I am choosing the R65 as my first bike. I've seen a few bikes for less, and often hear ADVers talk about finding them for under 2k. I thought I'd offer maybe 2300 if everything checks out. Does that sound reasonable? Still too high?

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Old 10-09-2012, 03:20 PM   #2
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1983 R65 with 20k miles, for $2900 obo. Comes with hard bags, rebuilt forks, replaced ignition and usual maintenance, normal wear and tear--tach stopped working. Feel free to have a closer look here: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/3245964709.html

Been lurking quite a bit, it's a great forum! Also probably the reason why I am choosing the R65 as my first bike. I've seen a few bikes for less, and often hear ADVers talk about finding them for under 2k. I thought I'd offer maybe 2300 if everything checks out. Does that sound reasonable? Still too high?

Thanks!
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Twin shock R65s make good first bikes, and good first airheads.

Having had the coil, hall sensor, battery and starter replaced is a real plus. If the rear shocks have been replaced, the news just gets better.

The only likely weakness is that airheads of the era had questionable "unleaded" valve seats. Not many ways to check, but may not be an issue given (a) the low mileage, and (b) you may graduate to another bike in a fairly short time and, therefore, may not put many more miles on the bike anyway.

If it checks out and you are confident in the head/valve seat issue, I would say that $2,500 would be a good price for you and a fair price for the seller.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:16 PM   #3
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That looks like an excellent bike for you to get started with. The asking price is as wee bit high (IMHO) but I don't live anywhere near it. The local market may be higher than where I usually buy. I would say that it is really worth between $2-2500.

It does have a few issues
- The tach may be an easy fix, or may need to be sent to a specialist.
- The side covers are missing. Can get them on FleaBay, but will probably need to paint them to match the tank.
- Rubber bits, well, those are pretty normal to have to replace due to age. Not a big deal. Figure out what you need, order them online or wherever you prefer and spend a few evenings replacing what you need to replace.

I would not worry about the valves to much, other than to make certain that they are adjusted correctly. He states that he only gets 40MPG. Those R65s in stock condition should be getting more than that. I average 45MPG on my R100RT, and I do not baby it at all. Remember, Airheads do like to be ridden, not pampered.

If you can get it for under $2500 and it rides out well, grab it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:44 PM   #4
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I've got a well used 83 R65 just about to tick over 100 000 kms.....none of the things on the one your looking at have been done on mine.....still goes well though. Fun bikes and I have no plans to get a larger one....as I live on an on Island.... From my house I can see the east and west coast harbours....

Valves I understand are a weak point of R65's....to do with the 7mm valve stems.

Price wise can't help as I paid under a grand US for mine....but it was not running well thanks to PO's carb adjusting skills. Looks nice.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:09 PM   #5
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DaveBall makes good points.

Side covers are R65 (and the R45 we did not get in the US) specific. They do turn up on the used market, but nowhere near as often as the covers for their 800cc and 1,000cc kin. Also, the retaining moldings on the back of the R65 side covers are prone to break, so finding some that might not need any work could be a drawn out wait. Even when the mountings are in perfect condition, the covers are never very secure - cable ties are your friend.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:47 PM   #6
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You can usually get a set of side covers from England Fleabay. I have seen lots of stuff over there for the R65 and R45 that are considered hard to get here. I had to source a few things for my R45 from there. The trick to putting the side covers on is a we bit of Vaseline on the rubbers, and yes, zip ties are your friend. I drilled some very small holes along the back and front edges and used the smallest black zip ties to secure mine. One of the hardest parts to source, in excellent condition, is the panel that attaches to the forks for mounting the headlight, turn signals and guages. Mine was badly bent and new it costs about $125 and I got one off Fleabay England for $28 Cdn delivered to my door via mail.

And remember that the exhaust system is totally different size than any other airhead. The mufflers for an R80 or R100 are too big and too long.

But, if you want to take on the task of being totally unique, you can mount the RT or RS fairing to an R65. The police in Europe used the R65 and R45 as in town police bikes, due to their being extremely nimble in traffic. They used the RT fairing, which was only a factory option on them and quite rare to find now.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:13 PM   #7
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I agree - $2500 seems reasonable to me. It is low miles and appears in pretty good shape other than the tach and dent in the tank. One of the first things I'd do is add a second disc up front.

You know, just because it's a first bike doesn't mean it's going to be sold in short order to make room for something larger. Like tools, the largest hammer isn't always the best for the job.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:38 AM   #8
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is 40mpg a problem?

Can I achieve better fuel economy (safely) by leaning the carbs out, or is low mpg a sign of a more serious problem?

For sure Wirespokes, I'd like to keep it a long time, potentially forever. I really like how the r65 is overbuilt for the power it was given. I will heed your brake advice wisdom as well.

Thanks for all the input guys! 2500 doesnt seem like a steal but I guess you could say I got the fever. :) and there aint too many to choose from within driving distance!
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:03 AM   #9
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A second disk up front is a fairly simple add-on. But can be expensive, depending on where you source the parts. The fork leg should already have the lugs to attach the caliper.

40MPG isn't a problem. I would say a good tune up, set the valves properly and have the carbs balanced. Then see how it goes. Most R65s should get you in the upper 40s to low 50MPG. Depending on how you ride it. My only frame of reference here at the moment is my 81 R100Rt averages 45MPG and my 81 R45 gets 55-60MPG depending on how hard I twist the throttle. (Usually pretty hard due to such low power).
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:26 AM   #10
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Don't forget,the Can. gallon has more fliud.
MPG is different between the two countries.
Can. gallon is 4.446 liters.
US gallon is 3.785 liters.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:51 AM   #11
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I use mine for work, mix of motorway and suburban, 50 km round trip, gets about 360-380 kms on 20 litres.
I was initially unimpressed by the front brake but now I just brake earlier/harder.
I really like the comfortable seat, nimble handling, and its pretty good on a Sunday scratch thru the twisties too.
I get parts from Motobins in England....have done since 1988.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:06 PM   #12
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Mine gets 50mpg no matter how I ride it - but it's apples/oranges for comparison since it's heavily modified. You'd think it would get worse mileage, but it doesn't.

As for the brakes - I didn't change or install pads, so what's in there is what was in it before. And it's got staninless braided lines. I did install either a 13 or 14mm mastercylinder which gives great leverage. A lot of times I do one finger braking.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:41 PM   #13
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I have a little over 100,000 miles on a R65. Overall, I think it got just a couple mpg more than my R100 for the same type riding although my R100 is a LOT faster. I usually got close to 40mpg out on the hiway and would go down hill from there. If I was riding it real hard, the mileage wouldn't dip near as low as my R100 or my R69S.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:52 PM   #14
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It's pretty hard to have a very nice and well maintained Boxer that needs nothing for under $3500.00. So starter there and subtract out everything it needs to be a perfect bike for you including any service work. You will probably end up somewhere between $2500 and $2900. If your not super familiar with these old bikes or much of a hands on person have a BMW mechanic take a look at it. It might cost you an hours labor but save you a bunch in the end.
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:16 PM   #15
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.....But, if you want to take on the task of being totally unique, you can mount the RT or RS fairing to an R65. The police in Europe used the R65 and R45 as in town police bikes, due to their being extremely nimble in traffic. They used the RT fairing, which was only a factory option on them and quite rare to find now.
Not unique, but I always liked the look of the OEM optional handlebar fairing. Here's some images trolled from the internet. Very “LS” style contemporary:




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