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Old 10-09-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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Doing a stretch of gravel road in the spring that will require about 700km between fills. (420miles). I've been looking at this http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo...racecells.html the 5 gallon model because of the fittings coming out the middle of the front. I have a flat metal rack MOD i think that i could hard mount this battery style to the tank and use a petcock with a removable hose to gravity feed my main fuel tank. Thought this will also allow me a mountain point for both my spare tires since it is only 15 inches wide at its largest. This will double as protection for the tank. Tank has a tip over vent and should be crash resistant since it is for drag usage. Can anyone think of a reason this would be stupid?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:16 PM   #2
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I don't a see why that wouldn't work. It does put the weight up high however, and youre stuck with this big clunky thing once its empty. The 5 gallon model I see is 13" square, which gives you a little over 18" diagonally. Don't know if you could get a 17" tire over that. A regular jerry can would probably be as good as that fuel cell for about 1/10 of the price.
This might be worth a look: fuel bladders
If it were me, and this was a one time deal, I would just use a few 5L water bottles from the grocery store and crush them as I use them. Worked for me.

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Old 10-10-2012, 03:11 AM   #3
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I don't a see why that wouldn't work. It does put the weight up high however, and youre stuck with this big clunky thing once its empty. The 5 gallon model I see is 13" square, which gives you a little over 18" diagonally. Don't know if you could get a 17" tire over that. A regular jerry can would probably be as good as that fuel cell for about 1/10 of the price.
This might be worth a look: fuel bladders
If it were me, and this was a one time deal, I would just use a few 5L water bottles from the grocery store and crush them as I use them. Worked for me.
If you dont use them fairly quickly the gas will disolve the plastic.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:22 AM   #4
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If you dont use them fairly quickly the gas will disolve the plastic.
Nonsense. It works just fine. Try it for yourself.
Acetone however, is another story.

You could also use oil / antifreeze / washer fluid jugs if you are concerned about a reaction. They are the same plastic as jerry cans and fuel tanks.

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Old 10-10-2012, 11:29 AM   #5
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I can't shake the feeling you all are trying to get me killed. Lol. Main reason I want a cell is for impact and rock resistance over a 4 day 1500km rock and shale ride. Plastic bottle with a thin wall does not sit well with me in this case
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:12 PM   #6
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I really like the idea of "disposable" fuel bottles if it is a one-time need.
H in the USA most of bottles seem to be made of either PET or PVC. From what I read, both PET and PVC have "moderate" resistance to gasoline and should not be used for long term storage. So while I would not hesitate to use one to bring a liter of gasoline from a gas station or my tank to a mate in need, I do question the longer-term storage capability.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:59 PM   #7
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I'd probably steer more towards the Rotopax units. Couple of 3 gallon and you should be good to go - could probably sell some fuel to those in need for a handsome fee too
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:49 AM   #8
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:24 PM   #9
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Nonsense. It works just fine. Try it for yourself.
Acetone however, is another story.

You could also use oil / antifreeze / washer fluid jugs if you are concerned about a reaction. They are the same plastic as jerry cans and fuel tanks.
I have tried it many years ago when I tried to save a dollar, that's why I posted it.
Put some gas in one and let it sit for an hour, then check how soft the plastic feels.

The plastic used to make water bottles is not the same plastic used for the other cans you mentioned.

Just be sure you get something that is designed to carry gas.

It never ceases to amaze me how people will spend the money on a high end motorcycle, then cheap out on things to make it more enjoyable.

One last comment.

I rode in a rallye this past July, I carried a two liter bottle of water in my top case with my first aid kit, camera, jacket liner and a couple of other things.
When we stopped at a visitors center I oppened my top case to find my water bottle had ruptured and got everything wet. I had wrapped the bottle in a towell to pad it, but it still got water on everything. Just be carefull.

This was my solution.
http://www.r1200gs.info/forum/15-acc...aska-trip.html
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:02 PM   #10
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That is pretty creative! Nice work
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:21 PM   #11
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That is pretty creative! Nice work
Thanks, It worked great for that trip.

Now I have the GSA, If I mount those I can carry 12.7 gallons.
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:34 PM   #12
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I'd probably steer more towards the Rotopax units. Couple of 3 gallon and you should be good to go - could probably sell some fuel to those in need for a handsome fee too
This sounds like the winner. Easy to bolt onto the bike and usable for other applications as well.

Plus it give you an excuse to stop and stretch your legs.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:06 PM   #13
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It never ceases to amaze me how people will spend the money on a high end motorcycle, then cheap out on things to make it more enjoyable.

This was my solution.
http://www.r1200gs.info/forum/15-acc...aska-trip.html
True. I was about to suggest a Blitz container (5 gallon, $12 USD), but you're correct. I use a myriad of containers (including the Blitz for off-roading in the 4Runner because I need 15-20 gallons more) but I have a couple of the Rotopax. Rotopax is a solid, bombproof solution that is pretty impervious to ruptures and drops that can happen, and survive.

And I like your mounting option for the rear foot pegs. Very nice!
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