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Old 05-28-2013, 02:57 AM   #196
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Rear tanks

I have 20 up front , need 10 more on the rear, has any one fitted a safari tank on the rear yet? Pics.
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:45 AM   #197
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I had a 12' KTM 450 XC-W and loved it, but sold it due to lack of riding time. I am now looking for another one. I have found a good buy on a new 13' 500 XC-W and was hoping someone could explain the difference in how the motors feel and work.

I have never ridden the 500 and was curious how it compares to the 450 and hope that someone who has ridden both could explain.

Thanks!!!!!!
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:41 PM   #198
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I had a 12' KTM 450 XC-W and loved it, but sold it due to lack of riding time. I am now looking for another one. I have found a good buy on a new 13' 500 XC-W and was hoping someone could explain the difference in how the motors feel and work.

I have never ridden the 500 and was curious how it compares to the 450 and hope that someone who has ridden both could explain.

Thanks!!!!!!
Go to Page 12 of this thread, Ned provides a nice comparison.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:44 PM   #199
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[QUOTE=Weldit;20011016]I wondered about all-balls bearing quality too but only time will tell.
Stock bearings only lasted 2900 km and were toast - seals failing was a factor here ?
all balls fit was perfect and the wheel spacers were awesome - even have an o-ring
inside to seal to axle which should help stop water getting in.
the hardened seal surface will last long and only adds a tiny bit of weight !
see them here 2009 KTM 530EXC All Balls Front Wheel Spacer Kit | MotoSport
kind of like a speedy- sleeve on the old small block chev harmonic balancers
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as to stuff that didn't fit ? - thought KTM used same bearings for all dirt bike wheels 125- 530 ?
maybe someone packaged wrong stuff ?
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might not have been "chrome" but there was a plating that peeled up and was nasty sharp
on my stock spacers - maybe it was a hard surfacing or something ?
still have them laying in a box somewhere - not serviceable at all.
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:37 PM   #200
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Go to Page 12 of this thread, Ned provides a nice comparison.
Thanks..................just what I was looking for!!!!
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:55 PM   #201
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My 500exc is 2012 with 156 hrs and has 5210 miles uses zero oil and leak down is 5% and checked at every 30hrs with valve check and valves are good no adjustment required yet since new. I use Castrol 20 / 50 4T Dino Oil after intial break in and change oil and filter every 10 to 15 hrs religiously
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:11 PM   #202
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My 500exc is 2012 with 156 hrs and has 5210 miles uses zero oil and leak down is 5% and checked at every 30hrs with valve check and valves are good no adjustment required yet since new. I use Castrol 20 / 50 4T Dino Oil after intial break in and change oil and filter every 10 to 15 hrs religiously
It sounds really good!! My EXC is also a 2012 (I purchased it used) with about 3000 miles and also doesn't use any oil, but I am reluctant to change the motor oil every 10 or 15 hours, as you do... I do not race it, so I guess that it won't be necessary (I hope...)
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:19 PM   #203
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Anyone have a trick to stopping countershaft oil Leak? Replaced everything with oem stuff, started leaking at 2 hours. Not oem front sprocket but measures out the same as stock. Thinking about trying to shim the sprocket....
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:20 PM   #204
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Anyone have a trick to stopping countershaft oil Leak? Replaced everything with oem stuff, started leaking at 2 hours. Not oem front sprocket but measures out the same as stock. Thinking about trying to shim the sprocket....
How tight is your chain?
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:26 PM   #205
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How tight is your chain?

Forgot to mention, when I had everything apart at 2 hours I checked how tight to run the chain by removing the shock and putting the swingarm through it's arc so I know at what point it binds. Was actually looser than needed to be so I know I haven't stressed the output shaft.

I'll try the oem sprocket even though they measure out at exactly the same width.

Hell, it's still in warranty....
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:09 PM   #206
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Forgot to mention, when I had everything apart at 2 hours I checked how tight to run the chain by removing the shock and putting the swingarm through it's arc so I know at what point it binds. Was actually looser than needed to be so I know I haven't stressed the output shaft.

I'll try the oem sprocket even though they measure out at exactly the same width.

Hell, it's still in warranty....
There should be no secrets to stopping a countershaft leak. Behind the sprocket there is a seal, and a sleeve within that with an O-ring. The O-ring is located in a groove in the sleeve, and that slides over the countershaft with the ring making contact with a face inside the gearbox. The cupped washer provides enough pressure on the sprocket to seal the O-ring. Did you replace the cupped washer? Dirt Tricks claims to have a longer lasting part, but I have yet to buy one.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:13 PM   #207
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There should be no secrets to stopping a countershaft leak. Behind the sprocket there is a seal, and a sleeve within that with an O-ring. The O-ring is located in a groove in the sleeve, and that slides over the countershaft with the ring making contact with a face inside the gearbox. The cupped washer provides enough pressure on the sprocket to seal the O-ring. Did you replace the cupped washer? Dirt Tricks claims to have a longer lasting part, but I have yet to buy one.
I realize all that. The bike was bought brand new in May and I have checked the parts fiche and replaced everything that comes in the KTM kit for fixing it. There is a metal sleeve in the kit that is not used as in older ktms.

I have replaced the washer, though after 5 hours total I doubt it was the issue.
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:58 PM   #208
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Neduro, any further updates on the 450 vs 500? Do you still have these bikes? Have you noticed any additional differences between them as time has gone on. I'm wondering if the 450 revs quicker and is a bit more 'racier' than the 500. Or are the two still very close and differences are negligible?
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:47 AM   #209
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Neduro, any further updates on the 450 vs 500? Do you still have these bikes? Have you noticed any additional differences between them as time has gone on. I'm wondering if the 450 revs quicker and is a bit more 'racier' than the 500. Or are the two still very close and differences are negligible?
Still have the 450 and love it. The 500 was sold (to an inmate, actually!).

IMO, the 450 is a little easier to ride aggressively. The 500 is a little torquier. They are not that far apart. I'll get a 14 sometime soon, not sure which I'll wind up with, and don't mind either way.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:44 AM   #210
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Ned,

Is your 450 still returning the excellent mpg you mentioned experiencing with a demo 450 in the beginning of the thread?
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