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Old 06-13-2005, 05:00 PM   #1
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Pissed '05 640 Adventure - what IS KTM thinking???

I have taken some time to cool down - I was pretty pissed.

Took delivery of my long anticipated (which is anothe issue - why does KTM flood dealers with bikes like 2 strokes that aren't wanted, yet 640's & 950's are tough to get???) '05 640 just a couple days before I left for a trip into the back country in NE Montana (pics to come - had a GREAT time!!). We trailered out with 6 bikes between four guys, another guy was going to fly out and join up with us. I coveted a 640 ever since I rode my friends in Mexico and in Montana the previous year. Now I love my 950, and wouldn't get rid of it, but the 640 is SO much more "off road freindly". Any way, I also took a recent aquisition KLR250 with MT21's and a reduced countershaft sprocket as a back up in case of any mechanical problems or mishaps for anyone.

Well my 640 was the one! The first day of hard rain wasn't going to stop us. The gumbo mud in some areas of the mountain roads was never really a problem in the past - 'till it met up with my low fender dual front disk 640!!! My Ducati 998S has about as much tire clearance as the 640!! That mud locked the wheel uo solid and twisted the front fender forward, threatening to rip off the brake balance tube. That would have seriously ruined the day. As it was, we had to remove the front fender, and remove the brake fluid balance tube from the right caliper held up with a zip tie, JUST so I could ride it back to camp and pick up the KLR250 - which ran beautifully the entire week as I thrashed it about. I know, I know, I should have ordered a high fender kit, which I did as soon as I saw the new bike come in - but they are "back ordered".

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My real question is to KTM - what sort of demographics do they think WANT this bike, and want it with a low "street" fender?? Totally stupid in my opinion, and really downright dangerous.
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:02 PM   #2
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Convert it to the high fender and lose a disc. Ride the bugger...
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:20 PM   #3
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chris is drunk. keep the disks, but ditch the hugger for an 03 style high fender.
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:59 PM   #4
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Convert it to the high fender and loaded's a dick. Ride the bugger...
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:11 PM   #5
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My real question is to KTM - what sort of demographics do they think WANT this bike, and want it with a low "street" fender?? Totally stupid in my opinion, and really downright dangerous.
its a pretty bike for cruisin the strip saturday night for chicks...

take it back as a warranty issue and make the buggers fix it all up - better yet have them put on the high fender, probaby cheaper.

oh yeah, ditch on dics and brake - what's duals for?

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Old 06-13-2005, 06:14 PM   #6
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My real question is to KTM - what sort of demographics do they think WANT this bike, and want it with a low "street" fender?? Totally stupid in my opinion, and really downright dangerous.
I disagree that it's either stupid or dangerous. The reason I swapped mine out is I KNEW it woudl get choked up with mud where I ride. You knew about it BEFORE you purchased it, so why is it a problem ? I had mine swaped out for a high guard before I even took delivery ! For me persoanlly I went with the high guard option but I would guess 80% of riders are going to be happy with the low guard. Most 640 Adv spend most of their life on the road or good dirt tracks.



With all due respect, you seem to be pointing the finger of "blame" the wrong way.
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:53 PM   #7
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Did it look a little like this?

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Old 06-13-2005, 06:55 PM   #8
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I suppose a low fender is better in the sand. But dual discs? Never made sense to me either...
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Old 06-13-2005, 07:20 PM   #9
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Did it look a little like this?

That's the Flintstones low profile TKC... right?
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Old 06-13-2005, 09:00 PM   #10
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They should put a more durable clutch in those damm things too

When it's over you realize that's what made it an adventure. As Hilandfrog said, " if we rode on dry gravel roads for 2 days it wouldn't have been any fun". I'm sure when he said it, it sounded much more wise and worldly
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Old 06-14-2005, 12:11 AM   #11
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..My real question is to KTM - what sort of demographics do they think WANT this bike, and want it with a low "street" fender?? Totally stupid in my opinion, and really downright dangerous.
You'll be fine when the high fender arrives. While you're waiting, convert it over to single disc and sell the other to someone who thinks their LC4 needs two of 'em. Money in pocket, problem solved!

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Old 06-14-2005, 12:46 AM   #12
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You'll be fine when the high fender arrives. While you're waiting, convert it over to single disc and sell the other to someone who thinks their LC4 needs two of 'em. Money in pocket, problem solved!

i need the bling of two diskeses and a low fender.... trade?
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:24 AM   #13
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...more likely a Marketing issue - and the use of the 950 front end.

The Dakar bikes use the low fender due to the fine sand and trying to keep it away from the rider, etc. The idea would be to make the bike look more like the Dakar for Marketing; plus the use of the 950 front end without having to do any mods at the factory.
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:14 AM   #14
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Convert it to the high fender and lose a disc. Ride the bugger...
can't agree more those two discs plainly suck
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Old 06-14-2005, 08:39 AM   #15
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...more likely a Marketing issue - and the use of the 950 front end.

The Dakar bikes use the low fender due to the fine sand and trying to keep it away from the rider, etc. The idea would be to make the bike look more like the Dakar for Marketing; plus the use of the 950 front end without having to do any mods at the factory.
I noticed that the KTM Adventure sales brochure shows the Dakar bike with a single disc up front. Hmmm.
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