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Old 01-07-2013, 09:27 AM   #2251
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:30 AM   #2252
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quoting pics

try putting up with "quoting with pictures" with iffy satellite internet from Afghanistan. Enjoying the heck out of the report, as well as all the older reports like BAM and the 'stans reports.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:40 AM   #2253
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Please do NOT quote with a page full of pics... nuked.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:42 AM   #2254
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:58 AM   #2255
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:58 AM   #2256
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:15 AM   #2257
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:01 PM   #2258
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Dried dung is also a common fuel above tree-line in Nepal, from my experience. Even in teahouses full of trekkers that's the fuel. Sometimes they pour a pint or so of kero onto it before they light the stove. I've seen it laid out on roofs to dry in the sun. Typically comes from the cattle-yak hybrids they raise. Eagerly awaiting P's photos and W's continuing story of his race against time! Great work, gang, on coordinating the skeins of this yarn to make an awesome thread!
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:05 PM   #2259
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I think you're hinting at a sort of feigned altruism involved with some of these rides, and of course, for some of them you'd be correct.

Fact of the matter is, attaching oneself to a charity or other NGO can facilitate getting in, out and traveling around a particular country. Especially if a problem arises, having the infrastructure setup by a large NGO (unicef, dr's w/o borders, etc...) can possibly be a life saver for an individual.

I would not be surprised if any members of the Sibirskey Extreme were affiliated with an NGO.

In this case, Walter's experience with the countries, and the political stability of the countries visited, may prove having NGO affiliation irrelevant. In addition the tight deadlines may prevent any such volunteer work.

I'm interested to hear the team's thoughts on using NGOs as a travel aid (altruism not withstanding).

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This is in marked contrast to some rides I've seen where the riders declare that the purpose of the ride is to "raise awareness" of some illness, or negative social condition and then solicit donations of everything, even bikes sometimes, on the theory that they are a charity---in essence clothing their personal "dream of a lifetime" adventure so as to get everything handed to them for free. That just doesn't sit right with me.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:20 PM   #2260
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I think the others had said everything about your amazing tour, and tale. I like it. I had learnt through Terry, and Rod, that I should not fear in my age to take all possibilitys and go continued for mine adventures.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:18 PM   #2261
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Last part Day 59

This was the first fuel stop we had day 59.



Later that day we would meet the guys on their German and Japanese camels.I think we talked for about 15 min. when they left us, we cooked some water for a cup of tea before we got back on our bikes again.

That day we had a lot of mud and sand.
While we were cruising Rod's bike was getting a bit warm because his radiator was clogged with mud.
Beamster's radiator could use a wash too so we stopped next to a river to pressure wash the radiators.
While Rod was taking the tank off of his bike to reach the radiator a bit better a car with a whole family stopped near the same river. They dragged what looked like a lifeless guy out of their car and started some sort of ritual.......... they started to pour the cold water over him to get him out of his alcohol coma.
It took at least 15 min. to get him moving again.

When the bikes were ready to go again we reached the little town that Rod mentioned in post #2163
for jet another bike fill-up.



The inside of the Altai City hotel wasn't really colorful so we ordered some colors to add to the pictures.

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Old 01-07-2013, 03:11 PM   #2262
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Hi AArrff.
I concur with what's already been said. My boots have Gore-tex within and that's great as long as you're just riding along in the wet. Alas it won't stop the water getting in from the top down when you're in it up to the thighs and will just trap it within. Wet feet time.
My own advice would be just get something that has the right balance of protection and comfort for YOU, enjoy the advantages and live with the inevitable drawbacks. Bas and Beemster used good quality hiking boots, I use high top hunting boots, Terry used some "Adventure" motorcyling boots that he pounded to death as they just weren't up to the hammer and Walter uses top end MotoX boots. We're all right if that's what suits us so just use what suits you. Simples!
Thank you Rod! I have been trying to keep two pair usable by keeping the ones I like re-soled and one pair is unlined so I can pick and choose. I like the lined ones for general touring but unlined if I have any chance of deep water. I have been using adventure types lately with some ankle armor since I crushed some bones years ago in a little mishap. They suck for walking much and the soles do not last long at all if you have aggressive pegs. I would prefer good hunting boots and may just go back to that. Ok, nuf of my rambling...thanks for the incredible report!
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:14 PM   #2263
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Day 60

We took the bikes from the guarded parking to the parking in front of the hotel.
There we loaded the bikes with all our gear, and left the hotel in search of fuel and food before we would continue our adventure through this amazing country.



When we left Altai City it didn't take long before the tarmac changed into dirt again.
That day we had lots of different types of terrain like rocky desert,sand,steppe with tall grass.



The pictures show the different kinds of terrains we had that day.





This valley turned out to be one big swamp. There was a maze of small streams all over the place.

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Old 01-07-2013, 03:56 PM   #2264
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Water

the last few nights had been very short. Thanks a lot to the team for the fantastic pictures and the provided insights.
Many pages back, there was a discussion about drinking water from streams.
Do you know the SODIS Method? http://www.sodis.ch/methode/index_EN
Not usable on the road, but good to know if you had to stay for some days to get rid of your sickness. It's a low tech solution.
Looking forward to more short nights
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:04 PM   #2265
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the last few nights had been very short. Thanks a lot to the team for the fantastic pictures and the provided insights.
Many pages back, there was a discussion about drinking water from streams.
Do you know the SODIS Method? http://www.sodis.ch/methode/index_EN
Not usable on the road, but good to know if you had to stay for some days to get rid of your sickness. It's a low tech solution.
Looking forward to more short nights
Thanks again, Peter
Hmm.?! I suppose this could also be done with bottles strapped to the back of a bike? Strap them on in the am and have drinking water in the pm?
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