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Old 02-12-2013, 01:08 PM   #3706
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Is this the kind of trip where a couple of small cheap bikes like the TW200 would be a good choice....cheap..little worry about them getting damaged or stolen and easy to haul out of a bog if needed....vs say my KTM 690 which would be a bummer to lose.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:33 PM   #3707
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Is this the kind of trip where a couple of small cheap bikes like the TW200 would be a good choice....cheap..little worry about them getting damaged or stolen and easy to haul out of a bog if needed....vs say my KTM 690 which would be a bummer to lose.
And the upside for the ride report reader would be that it would be a much longer report as the pace would have to be slower. :-)
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:23 PM   #3708
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from Colebatch:

you take the shallowest route ... you dont get to pick that, you just have to find it. Often by walking the crossing many times. If you cant walk across it due to the current, you have no chance of getting a bike across it.

you also have to bear in mind where you want to get out of the water. There will be one spot on the other side where you have to climb up the opposite bank ... whatever route you take, you need to end up there

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Old 02-12-2013, 04:53 PM   #3709
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That won't work in the former Soviet Union, mate. There are guys there who would add peppers and horseradish to 151 to get up their standards. "Smooth" and "sippable" aren't in the Russian drinking lexicon. A very poplar type of Vodka is Horilka. Translated, the word means "a little burn."

It's a whole different league.

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Here is a trick a buddy of mine invented that works wonders when in the vicinity of drunks or a party with locals. In all my travels outside the US it always seems the locals wants the Gringo to sample the local moonshine or spirits to get a good laugh at the funny expression on the Gringos face(its all in good fun). Well after we partake we pull out a pint of Bacardi 151 and tell them try ours they are usually feeling no pain at this point and proceed to take a big chugg of the sissy gringo booze. Kaboom rubber knees,tearing eyes a dazed stagger like they just got caught with an Ali straight left jab. Then the enevitable question. Uno Mas Amigo. The enevitable reply no mas,no mas. It also is good when confronted by drunks that won't go away. You just wip out the 151 and offer them a drink if they take a big enough hit it will mellow them out enough to get your shit together and get out of Dodge plus you will make instant friends with the local Hooligans by offering them a drink. Its really good for snake bite too!
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:10 PM   #3710
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WOW, you have definitely captured the true spirit of the word ADVENTURE. No need to edit. It is AMAZING!!!!!!!
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:18 PM   #3711
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Walter, any thoughts on the Shorai reliability? Will you continue to to tour with one?

Pricey but love the weight.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:09 PM   #3712
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It seems very stiff to me for ADV work. As I mentioned above, 4.8 is a standard spring rate on a 990 Adventure, which not only is a lot heavier, but has a less suspension travel. I weigh a similar amount to you for the record.

Even for rally racing, 5.0 - 5.2 seems very very stiff. I have a friend with a 450 rally bike, (also about the same weight as us) and he runs a 4.7 spring rate (4.6 in one fork and 4.8 in the other).

I would start at around 4.4 - 4.6 and change that if you bottom it out. If you are doing adventure travel, you need to protect both the bike and yourself as much as possible. The lighter the springs, the less the surface of the road is going to be passed on to you. Run the lowest spring rate you can that does not result in the forks bottoming out according to the way you ride.

Progressive springs are a way to run a lighter spring without the forks bottoming out, which as I mentioned above, is the aim of the game. for the first 100 odd mm of travel the forks have a lighter spring (for mine it was about 4.0) which helps the forks absorb everything from rocks, bumps in the road, gutters etc instead of transmitting them through to the handlebars and the chassis of the bike. I.e. less vibrations on the bike itself, and less coming thru your hands and body. Softer spring protects the bike and protects you better than a stiffer spring. As the fork compresses, the spring rate changes to a much stiffer one ... which is important as it helps the fork avoid bottoming out.

So for me, a progressive spring is a natural extension of the front suspension philosphy of having the lightest possible springing that still avoids bottoming out the forks.
I have DRZ forks in my DR650 with 0.48 springs but I am 2up with a tank that can hold 38litres of fuel.They are good at that rate but i would like to try a bit less high speed compression damping. For a lighter bike and solo the standard springs, 0.43 should be fine, i would think there isnt much weight difference between the DRZ and an XC
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:02 PM   #3713
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Is this the kind of trip where a couple of small cheap bikes like the TW200 would be a good choice....cheap..little worry about them getting damaged or stolen and easy to haul out of a bog if needed....vs say my KTM 690 which would be a bummer to lose.
its three and a half months of your life ... you need to ride a bike that is going to be fun. If a TW200 does that for you then thats fine. But I enjoy the speed out on the steppe tracks and trails hugely ... and a 200cc bike isnt going to give me that.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:08 PM   #3714
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Walter, any thoughts on the Shorai reliability? Will you continue to to tour with one?

Pricey but love the weight.
Yes I will,

but I will also always take the charger / reconditioner with me on long trips
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:17 AM   #3715
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Walter, any thoughts on the Shorai reliability? Will you continue to to tour with one?
Pricey but love the weight.
In the mean time some of these LiFePo batteries are much less expensive.
My KTM dealer lists the Shido battery for the EXC, so it should resist the beating of offroad riding. I bought one for my EXC only 70€.
http://www.shido-batteries.com
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:28 AM   #3716
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A equipment question. Tank bags, what do you use?
What do you prefer?
Approximately size?
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:35 AM   #3717
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its three and a half months of your life ... you need to ride a bike that is going to be fun. If a TW200 does that for you then thats fine. But I enjoy the speed out on the steppe tracks and trails hugely ... and a 200cc bike isnt going to give me that.
It was only a thought. I'd take a 950
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:02 AM   #3718
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A equipment question. Tank bags, what do you use?
What do you prefer?
Approximately size?
I prefer small ... you can use whatever size you like, but if you are standing up all day then it shouldnt get in the way of your standing position when riding.

Note standing position when riding at 100 km/h is more forward than standing still, due to balancing against wind ... so you need to test that position dynamically rather than statically.

I have been using a GL fandango for a while, and think the size is about right. I can keep a few key things in there including a video camera and a DSLR.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:32 AM   #3719
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Please, more from the RR
where are the Norwegians? maybe on snowmobile in the norwegian tundra
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:28 AM   #3720
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standing up all day .
Colebatch you look big how you do to stand up for that many days I have troubles in just one day with my back for hard off road ride in a 450 MX.

How about if you start the RR and let the viking catch up you later
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