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Old 02-04-2015, 02:39 PM   #1
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I want that f1 sound...exhaust design ideas.

Okay, so ive done my research, and the closest thing we could get to a f1 engine for consumer use is the kawasaki zx2r, and the honda cbr250rr...both were not sold in the usa, but they had a 19,000 rpm redline.

Then, the best thing we can get here is the r6, which redlines at 16,500 ish rpm.



it sounds pretty f1-ish for those few seconds, but I think it can be improved upon with header design.

All of the exhaust systems made for these bikes are either a 4-into-one or cylinder 1 and 2 --and-- 3 and 4 get joined together.

No system i'm aware of joins cylinders 1 and 4 --and-- 2 and 3.
If one such system were to be fabbed up, it would do the same thing that the 180 degree headers on v8's accomplish--getting the ferrari noise from a regular v8.

This type of system plus the 16,500rpm's the r6 has to offer would sound pretty insane in my opinion.

any ideas?
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:43 PM   #2
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firing order is 1-2-4-3, and with the 4-1 and 2-3 headers, this would perfectly stagger exhaust pulses between the two collector pipes
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:57 PM   #3
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:07 PM   #4
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Old 02-04-2015, 07:33 PM   #5
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Real rpm max was quite a bit lower than 16,500 , so much so that Yamaha had to offer to buy them back shortly after release.
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:12 PM   #6
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Real rpm max was quite a bit lower than 16,500 , so much so that Yamaha had to offer to buy them back shortly after release.
Actually yamaha bragged about them being able to reach 18000, and it was an actual 16,500
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:15 PM   #7
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:16 PM   #8
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R6, a tig welder, and lots of your time and you can make whatever you want for an exhaust. Id suggest just getting an r6 and an aftermarket exhaust for the sound. My r1 with a power commander and leo vince sbk 4 into 1 system sounds f1 enough for me, though it more accurately approximates the v6 turbo Indy cars. I dont even get to listen to it make those sounds much because second gear will send you to jail with a pair of messed pants. So therefore, get the r6 because it more accurately finds the higher rpm you want and you might not die wringing its neck to make that oh so wonderful sound.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:03 AM   #9
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:11 AM   #10
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Just do everything that Kawi did here! Sounds like F1 to me.

I have had several 600 class kawis - enjoy the sounds but these are peaky engines. Even geared down my last 07 zx6r needed about 45mph in 1st before any real power came alive. Fun but you need some room to run through the gears.

My latest rocket is a Hayabusa that dopes around at 4-5k and belts out liter bike torque with no rpm.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:14 AM   #11
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None of the above sounds like this or last year's F1 cars.

Have a listen:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31110580
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:41 PM   #12
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Another vote for the cbx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTcA6DIeAyI
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:35 PM   #13
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CBX sounds more like an old E-Type Jag to me. That's not a bad thing either.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:04 PM   #14
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None of the above sounds like this or last year's F1 cars.

Have a listen:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31110580
F1 cars don't even sound like F1 cars anymore.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:58 PM   #15
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Laugh X Pipe

Murray used to build X pipe race systems. A friend had one on a GPZ 550 that raced in IDBA. It made that thing sound like it was turning double the 13K RPM it ran.
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