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Old 01-08-2013, 12:02 PM   #46
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I run 42psi as I always have load on them and thats manufacturer recommended. I feel more bumps in the road due to the hardness of the tires than with my old tires. I am still running 42psi as I usually have load on the bike but I'm thinking of running lower psi because of the tire hardness.

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I started with the K60's at the upper end of the inflation range and found them to be squirmmy, harsh and unsettled. Try dropping the air down into the upper 20's and see if it doesn't change the way they feel--it sure did for me. They are stiff enough to take it, loaded or not.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:49 AM   #47
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Just an update after about 4500 on the k60's. it's winter and very cold here in north jersey but that hasn't stopped me from riding. Here are a few observations:
Almost no grip in snow but probably better than street tires.
Does well in wet, sand and salted roads but I'm also not pushing it at all. Lowest temp so far has been 14 and riding felt fine.
Losing 6 psi per week on front tire. No loss on rear at all.

Before the treads get too low, I wanted to try and stud them out see how it feels.
I had a K76 Heidenau rear that sucked on pavement. At about 600 miles on the tire, the rear slid out on me and I went down. I fully blame it on the tire. It was rock hard on the sidewalls, giving a very stiff ride. It howled pretty loudly at speed. I got about 7000 miles on it to the wear indicators. Never again. I really like the Continental trail attack for the street...but I dont do much dirt.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:54 PM   #48
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Almost got to play lawn dart out in the desert in a sweeping left hander in the rain. Then almost got flicked off in a high side over a wet cattle guard a few mile later. Then had the front was out on a small rut offroad and did play lawn dart for that one.

I'll never use them again unless I'm in the middle of Uganda surrounded by snakes and jackals, and that's all the dealer has.

Ever.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:15 PM   #49
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Almost got to play lawn dart out in the desert in a sweeping left hander in the rain. Then almost got flicked off in a high side over a wet cattle guard a few mile later. Then had the front was out on a small rut offroad and did play lawn dart for that one.

I'll never use them again unless I'm in the middle of Uganda surrounded by snakes and jackals, and that's all the dealer has.

Ever.
I am getting the feeling you don't care for these tires. Can you be more direct? lol
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:58 PM   #50
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Time hasn't softened the utter disdain I have for these tires. The rear tire sits in my garage as a "just-in-case" tire, but honestly I'd hate to have to re-mount it.

There ain't many things that car ruin a ride for me (not rain, not snow, not deer, not heat), but the K60 sure did.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:21 PM   #51
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Yeah. Y'all know my feelings about the lousy bastidges.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:32 PM   #52
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I've had my K60 rear on for 5k miles and my front for about 2k miles. I don't like them at all either. I had TKC's on prior to this, but took the rear off at 8k miles and the front off at 10k miles.i could have easily gotten another thousand miles out of them. I switched to the Heidenaus because my front tkc started cupping after about 9k miles. The front K60 is very loud compared to the tkc and I hate the flat middle tread on the rear tire. It's dangerous on wet pavement when crossing painted lines and tar snakes and it does not have the offroad capability that the tkc does. My tires do have plenty of life in them, but the lifespan is not worth the lack of performance and safety to me.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:40 PM   #53
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I'm giving the rear K-60 a try on my sidecar rig. Not really worried about traction in rain and over tar snakes with three wheels, but dirt road traction and long life would be a plus for a rig that can't lean.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:50 PM   #54
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Time hasn't softened the utter disdain I have for these tires. The rear tire sits in my garage as a "just-in-case" tire, but honestly I'd hate to have to re-mount it.

There ain't many things that car ruin a ride for me (not rain, not snow, not deer, not heat), but the K60 sure did.
Amen to that. After 2k I yanked them. No way I'd sell them to somebody, just keep them around in case somebody is really stuck for a tire until they can get to a proper hoop.

Went to the Mitas E07. Complete opposite, totally awesome tire. Been through two sets of them now. What the K60 was supposed to be, but never was.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:52 PM   #55
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Oh great! NOW ya tell me!
UPS will ber dropping my set off in the morning
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:53 PM   #56
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Hey. Some love them , some hate them. But everybody has an opinion on these tires. ;)
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:43 PM   #57
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I am getting the feeling you don't care for these tires. Can you be more direct? lol
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:27 AM   #58
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Oh great! NOW ya tell me!
UPS will ber dropping my set off in the morning
Well I'll turn it around for ya.

I like the tyres, and I'd certainly use them again. An excellent mix between decent grip in rough stuff while still being somewhat Ok on road. Everything is a tradeoff, but a more off road biased tyre would be worse on the road, and vice versa. K60 is middle of the road.

I don't like the stupid air loss, it does drive me nuts, and they are definitely not happy on sealed roads in the rain. In contrast, where other tyres would aquaplane, the K60 doesn't. Just don't ask too much in corners.

Good all round tyre (as in, EVERYTHING), excellent mileage as well.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:27 AM   #59
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Oh tar snakes, yes I should've mentioned tar snakes. Avoid them at all costs. I brace myself when I go over them with k60's. I could be going straight with no acceleration, and I still slip if I hit a snake. I don't understand why they can't just add sand in the tar mixture.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:11 AM   #60
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Well I'll turn it around for ya.

I like the tyres, and I'd certainly use them again. An excellent mix between decent grip in rough stuff while still being somewhat Ok on road. Everything is a tradeoff, but a more off road biased tyre would be worse on the road, and vice versa. K60 is middle of the road.

I don't like the stupid air loss, it does drive me nuts, and they are definitely not happy on sealed roads in the rain. In contrast, where other tyres would aquaplane, the K60 doesn't. Just don't ask too much in corners.

Good all round tyre (as in, EVERYTHING), excellent mileage as well.
Mine have performed well, within the limits of a do-anything tyre.
The front needs the odd top-up, every few weeks, nothing too serious. I fitted them, so probably my fault.
I would like a bit more bite out front in the dirt, so might go a TKC or similar. But for two up touring with the odd dirt road and track, the k60 does the deed for me.
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