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View Results: Amendment 64: The Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act of 2012
Yes 102 73.91%
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:57 PM   #16
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The other thing I don't like about Amendment 64 is that they've tied marijuana tax revenue to school funding.

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And floating bonds is?
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:01 PM   #17
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What's the point of making something "legal" in Colorado that is still illegal under frederal jurisdiction?

The FDA still says marijuana is a Schedule I drug. Until that changes, nothing really changes.
States ended prohibition before the feds did. It forced the issue. We are a group of states not a single state.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:01 PM   #18
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I'm for legalizing marijuana, but after reading the blue book, it just seems like the proponents of this scraped something together to get it on the ballot.

It seems like there's still a bit of work to be done and issues that need to be resolved before it's legalized. I'm voting NO this election for it, not because I don't want it legalized, but it just seems like it will be legalized on a whim this year. Besides, it's still illegal federally.
You want it legalized, think it will be but don't like the wording? Everything has to start somewhere.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:05 PM   #19
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I'm not following you. Smoking, booze and motorcycles aren't illegal at the federal level. Marijuana is.
It's a Schedule I controlled substance like heroin and worse than morphine which is sched II
Yes, Big Pharma is quite peaved a weed growing out of the ground will undercut them after years of producing highly addictive and relatively ineffective pain pills when measured against the side effects. So...the government declared it a schedule 1.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:07 PM   #20
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And floating bonds is?
Tying school funding into the taxes of marijuana sales is saying "Hey in order to build better and better schools we need more and more people to smoke weed. And if 5 years from now our state goes on a health kick and a bunch of people suddenly stop smoking weed then our schools will suddenly be under funded".
That's where they lost me. I'd vote for 64 if it wasn't for that. I don't like tying school ( or Heath care) funding into any vice. It sends a very contradictory message.

And what's wrong with government bonds?
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Like tying cig taxes to medicaid?\

If you don't care...then let it go through. I suppose the feds mandated we wear pink pants on Sunday, there would be some that would believe that writing a different state law would be a bad idea. Yeah, that's hyperbole...just sayin.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:16 PM   #22
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Vote YES on 64

Cannabis does not qualify to be a Schedule 1 drug at the Fed level...it does not meet the criteria

If it was reclassified accurately as states are letting it be known by popular vote, many issues would be simply be resolved and go away

Like the alcohol prohibition, people are going to consume one way or another and is much less detrimental to society and one's health...in fact it has proven cancer fighting chemicals

tax it

Recent studies have concluded cell phone use/texting are about 7 times more distracting /accident causing than alcohol while driving..why not deal with that?

Keeping it illegal benefits the black market just as the Kennedy and Rockefeller politicians benefited financially from bootlegging during the alcohol prohibition ...

I agree that taxes from cannabis sales should not be tied to school funding but it will not stop me from voting YES

It's a start

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Old 10-26-2012, 05:31 PM   #23
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Like tying cig taxes to medicaid?\

If you don't care...then let it go through. I suppose the feds mandated we wear pink pants on Sunday, there would be some that would believe that writing a different state law would be a bad idea. Yeah, that's hyperbole...just sayin.
It's not hyperbole unfortunately. It's reality. It's what happened with drinking age laws and speed limit laws.
These things should be state by state decisions but they're not. Our damn over grown Fed government gets their hands in everything. If Colo passes this, Feds will cut funding to colo or start doing raids of dispenceries.
Fed law trumps state law. Sad but true.
That and the fact that this poorly written amendment does tie cannibus revenue to school funding. They lost me right there.

P.s. does the current "illegal" status of cannibus prevent any of you from sparking up as much as you want to? I didn't think so.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:36 PM   #24
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And what's wrong with government bonds?
It's bad enough that kids (and sometimes their parents) go into major debt to pay for secondary education. But sure... let's put our kids' primary education on the credit card, too. This state (along with many others) has become too bond-crazy in the past 20 years, floating a bond for every big development project they wanted badly, but couldn't pay for.... with many of the bonds performing way, way below expectation. Who picked up the slack on those bad bonds? Taxpayers. Now counties, specifically Jefferson with Amendment 3A and 3B, want to follow suit.

As MeterPig stated, cigarette and alcohol taxes pay for many state services with revenues from lotteries and gambling paying for parks and recreation. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using the addition revenue from taxing legalized marijuana for schools or whatever else the state needs.

This whole "Reefer Madness" bias towards pot is almost 100 years old and it's time put it to bed and treat it like the much more deadly alcohol and cigarettes that are legal and plentiful.

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Our damn over grown Fed government gets their hands in everything. If Colo passes this, Feds will cut funding to colo or start doing raids of dispenceries.
They tried the raids in California, didn't work... the state didn't back down and it didn't result in any Federal funding cuts and it's highly doubtful the raids would happen here and extremely unlikely any funding cuts could get past both the House and Senate.
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Our damn over grown Fed government gets their hands in everything. If Colo passes this, Feds will cut funding to colo or start doing raids of dispenceries

Sound like you are high on something other than cannabis....quite the perveted imagination of future events


P.S. Is the sky going to fall down too? Pls let us know where and when it will start ....some people may want to ^4.20 ^and watch


P.S.S. Food for thought = would it be more effective if parents would take their students smart phones away and follow up on classes taken / homework / attendance rather than students standing around outside checking their phones every few seconds, etc than providing more school funding ?

Last time voters approved more Jeffco funding they rebuilt athletic fields, parking lots, etc...kids still ouside standing around rathert than being in thier new Lekewood HS classrooms learning something

Vote Wisely

Vote NO on 3A and 3B

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Old 10-26-2012, 06:00 PM   #26
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Our damn over grown Fed government gets their hands in everything. If Colo passes this, Feds will cut funding to colo or start doing raids of dispenceries

Sound like you are high on something other than cannabis....quite the perveted imagination of future events

Ok... we're having a civil conversation. Let's not start throwing rocks, boys
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Ok... we're having a civil conversation. Let's not start throwing rocks, boys
Just chill out and smoke a doob folks
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The Dude made a good point. Allow me to amplify it:

Uncle Sam is already a hostile, sloppy drunk and chain smoker - addicted to the "sin-taxes" generated by alcohol and tobacco sales. The last thing we need is to addict him to pot as well. I have yet to see ANY government body act responsibly with public spending and debt. Adding another tax base will mean increased spending, fraud and corruption...... not the reduction of other taxes.

As people grow wiser and stop drinking, smoking and toking, the taxes on those substances will increase to make up for the revenue loss. Once a certain taxation level exists, the black market will thrive once again. And then taxes on everything we have trouble doing without will be established or increased.

I have no problem with folks using pot, for recreation or medication - as long as those people will still be liable for their actions/inactions. Same goes for using alcohol, cocaine, heroin or any other mind-altering substance. Legalizing sales, using taxation FOR ANY PURPOSE as justification, is dangerous insanity.
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:35 PM   #29
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P.s. does the current "illegal" status of cannibus prevent any of you from sparking up as much as you want to? I didn't think so.

Yes it does. And even if this passes I still won't smoke, because my employer will surely side with federal law. I will not smoke until it is legal federally. I vote yes because it is a start to fight the laws on the books.
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How much money are we spending to lock up people who smoke, use, an grow pot? How much is the government spending to keep drug cartels filthy rich? How many more people will die over this fabricated black market?

It's illegal under federal law to dispense pot. Where are the massive raids? The Feds know that the states have to cooperate or their power is gone. People have to believe the king has clothes.

More and more people are waking up to te fact that the Feds have very limited power as was intended by our founders.
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