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Old 05-25-2015, 02:15 PM   #1
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LC ESA modes & Ride modes settings...?

2015 R1200GS--Page 72 of the owner's manual says you can't change the ESA damping modes (soft-normal-hard) when you're riding. Is that right?? I cudda sworn I was changing them, maybe it was the power of suggestion? This just doesn't make any sense to have to stop in order to change it to road conditions....

I know preload requires that, but this shouldn't. Anybody know for sure?
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:20 PM   #2
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You can change the riding modes at anytime. I thought mine would only go into Enduro mode if I was stopped, but I was wrong.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:32 PM   #3
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OK, there's one who says I'm not delusional. Anybody else confirm it?

Edit: did you have to pull the clutch in and throttle to idle to make it change? I read that somewhere...

Edit 2: wait, I really meant suspension ESA setting, not RAIN-NORMAL-etc. You said "riding modes"....
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:34 PM   #4
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I needed to pull the clutch and you can't touch the brakes.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:36 PM   #5
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OK, we're talking 2 different things. I'm talking suspension damping, you're talking riding modes. not the same.

What about suspension? And I don't mean preload. Yeah the title did mention ride modes but suspension is my main question.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:40 PM   #6
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You can change from soft, normal and hard while riding. You need to be stopped to change from one up, one up plus luggage and two up.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:43 PM   #7
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You can change from soft, normal and hard while riding. You need to be stopped to change from one up, one up plus luggage and two up.
OK, well if you're right, the stupid manual is dead wrong. Which shouldn't surprise me I suppose. It says you must be stopped to change either of those, preload or damping.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:45 PM   #8
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You are not delusional. The latest version of the manual (R_0A11_RM_0814_R1200GS_07.pdf) indeed contains an erroneous statement on p. 72:
The damping cannot be adjusted while the motorcycle is being ridden.
It is however correct in this:
The spring preload cannot be adjusted while the motorcycle is being ridden.

The previous version of the manual (R_0A01_RM_0214_R1200GS_01) phrased it differently and correctly:
You can adjust the damping characteristic while the motorcycle is on the move.

You cannot adjust spring preload while the motorcycle is on the move.
You can change the damping without pulling the clutch (that applies to the riding modes).
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OK, we're talking 2 different things. I'm talking suspension damping, you're talking riding modes. not the same.

What about suspension? And I don't mean preload. Yeah the title did mention ride modes but suspension is my main question.
No. We are talking about the same thing.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:55 PM   #10
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What I've noticed:

ESA settings (hard normal soft): on the fly

Preload: from a stop, although you can ride off and it will continue to adjust (I did this accidently while at a stop light that changed faster than I'd anticipated)

Ride modes (dynamic, road, rain): on the fly but it won't change/adjust until you come to a stop.
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:09 PM   #11
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Ride modes (dynamic, road, rain): on the fly but it won't change/adjust until you come to a stop.
Does the manual actually say this??
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:10 PM   #12
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Its a real shame they won't pay someone to proofread and edit this thing, someone whose first language is English....

Edit: and someone who knows what they're talking about lol...
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Old 05-25-2015, 05:33 PM   #13
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Ride modes (dynamic, road, rain): on the fly but it won't change/adjust until you come to a stop.
Not true, while moving you have to release the throttle and pull the clutch in (sometimes twice) and it will change ride modes.

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Old 05-25-2015, 05:39 PM   #14
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Not true, while moving you have to release the throttle and pull the clutch in (sometimes twice) and it will change ride modes.

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Hmmm, maybe why I didn't feel a big change immediately. So we have to ride it to find out what it does, right? Sounds vaguely like a recent piece of legislation that was passed....
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Old 05-25-2015, 06:25 PM   #15
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Not true, while moving you have to release the throttle and pull the clutch in (sometimes twice) and it will change ride modes.

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That makes sense. Good to know.
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