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Old 12-19-2013, 07:21 AM   #1
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What to wear under cold weather suit?

I have a Firstgear thermal cold weather riding suit. It is warm but has no real protective ability. The material is only 210 denier and has no armor. The suit is relatively easy to get on and off though. What would be a good non-bulky armor to wear under the suit?

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:11 AM   #2
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hypothermia is your #1 concern, its an absolute threat, crash protection is secondary in cold weather

under armor is probably the best bet

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:48 AM   #3
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i don't know what your definition of "not bulky" is, but i wear my alpinestars bionic II "jaclket" (i.e., zip up pressure suit) under my outer layer on the street. i've gone down on the street twice wearing it and it has protected me 100% both times (it has also protected me 100% in more dirt crashes than i can remember).

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Fc07Ogod43MASw

i also wear a pair of shin/knee guards under my riding pants on the street (as well as in the dirt). they have saved my knees many times (including those two street get offs...one of which including a nice slide along the pavement with the bike on top of my one leg).

these are the ones i use, but lots of different companies make essentially the same thing for the same price.

http://www.amazon.com/Alpinestars-Re.../dp/B001A6IF0U

imho, wearing this stuff under an outer, abrasion resistant layer is the way to go. this stuff stays put. built in armor is looser and can move too much, imho.

(i wear underarmor under this stuff as a base layer...or patagonia capilene if it's really cold.)
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:35 PM   #4
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I have the thermal also and I wear my Summer gear under it. Pleanty of protection that way.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:29 PM   #5
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A shopper asked: I have a firstgear riding jacket with shoulder, elbow, and back pads. I would like to be able to wear it with the rain suit. I wear a large according to your chart. Can I wear my jacket over the suit, or should I get a X-large so the suit goes over the jacket? I also have long leggs for my height and weight. (35" inseam) Will I need the X-large for longer legg length. Thank you. Oct 4, 2011
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AliB: The Firstgear Thermo 1-Piece Suit is designed to be worn over your protective gear. It provides waterproofing and insulation, but no protection from impact. It is already designed as an over-suit, so we suggest ordering the same size as your riding jacket. Oct 4, 2011
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Old 12-23-2013, 04:15 PM   #6
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I go the other way, with the armored clothing on the outside, and the layers on the inside. Most of the time it's a thermal shirt, regular tshirt, and hoody, and that's good till it hits right around freezing.
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:13 AM   #7
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If your bike can produce the power to keep up, heated riding gear is the best. Gerbing far and away makes the best heated riding gear. I wear one layer of high performance ski long johns, then a light layer of cotton, and then my heated riding gear. Light, flexible, not bulky, warm, muscles stay relaxed.

I have ridden many highway miles in lower than 40 F temps comfortably.
Coldest I have ridden was 17 F in January in Wisconsin, 30 miles one way to work and back.
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Old 12-27-2013, 01:16 PM   #8
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Dress in layers. Thermal undies on the bottom layer, heated gear, street clothes, riding gear and then raingear on top. The raingear functions as a very important windblocker. I've been able to get by with just a heated jacket liner-- keep you core warm, and everything else follows. And a lot depends on how cold it gets, and on your resistance to the cold. "Back in the day", I just bundled up and was happy. Now that I'm older, a heated jacket liner is nice.

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Old 12-27-2013, 04:20 PM   #9
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Bohn Armor for under suit protection
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Old 12-27-2013, 05:17 PM   #10
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:15 AM   #11
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Thongs and pasties, always.
That goes without saying.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:43 PM   #12
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Use merino for a base layer if possible. I wasn't the type that spends 150 bucks on a base layer, but now that I've had a pair, I've been wishing that I did this sooner. Suprisingly versatile - mine keeps me comfortable in a 30 degree range, something I've never seen the synthetics do.

I've been wary of heated gear. The changes of failure are high, and if that is the only true layer you packed, you are practically screwed.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:43 AM   #13
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:47 AM   #14
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Ah ya'll need to reread his post, he is talking PROTECTIVE ARMOR not Underarmor and other thermal underlayers
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:08 AM   #15
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Dress in layers. Thermal undies on the bottom layer, heated gear, street clothes, riding gear and then raingear on top. The raingear functions as a very important windblocker. I've been able to get by with just a heated jacket liner-- keep you core warm, and everything else follows. And a lot depends on how cold it gets, and on your resistance to the cold. "Back in the day", I just bundled up and was happy. Now that I'm older, a heated jacket liner is nice.

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Too many layers for me! If I need that many I will take the cage.

I just wear street clothes no thermals, jeans & T-shirt with my heated liner over that and then my riding gear. The liner works better if there is nothing under it but a t-shirt.
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