Can KTM build a significantly lighter 700-800cc twin? Is there a market for it? - Page 14

Idle · 11-07-2012, 09:02 PM

Hard to believe but there's a 60° v-Twin motorcycle that claims 324 pounds wet. Lots of hand laid composites and state of the art engineering concepts.

So what if it's made of cheese, it's a lightweight v-twin innitt?

Just stating that it isn't asking too much to build a bike like Lukas has outlined. It should be easily achievable.

The bike is easy, the engine, notsomuch..

Aprilia, BRP, Rotax, KTM, and a few others have been working on it for a while.

dmaxmike · 11-08-2012, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crofrog

Oh so you're saying you wish you had a KLR

no i wish i would have known the TR was coming out when i bought my Dakar.

I'm 5'10" and ride 4 different KTM's made you should just learn to cope.

Everyone says that and I understand where there coming from but when you go through stop and go traffic on the way to work every day it gets old trying to get A foot down. With the low seat on my Dakar I can get the balls of both feet down. I have inches of air between my feet and the ground on my buddies 690 and my other buddy’s 500xc-w.

wpbarlow · 11-14-2012, 07:24 AM

Here you go-- claimed 385 pounds dry and 95hp.

Might need a couple of "additions"

Jettn Jim · 11-14-2012, 07:49 AM

Not exactly what I was thinking... here's a another article on the Bimota.
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...ood-51840.html

jerdog53 · 11-14-2012, 08:16 AM

Oh wait! Here it comes!

The Nay Sayers!! The fuel tank is too small! It has no wind protection! It’s only got a 19” front tire! The seat height is too tall and the seat is to hard or too wide to too narrow! There are no provisions for bags! There’s no sump guard! The Exhaust pipe it routed too low! It’s got high Exhaust! It doesn’t have low Exhaust! Its Air Cooled! It only makes 95 HP! It weighs 385 pounds! It’s not water cooled! No traction control, no ABS!

Pantah · 11-14-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jerdog53

Oh wait! Here it comes!

The Nay Sayers!! The fuel tank is too small! It has no wind protection! It’s only got a 19” front tire! The seat height is too tall and the seat is to hard or too wide to too narrow! There are no provisions for bags! There’s no sump guard! The Exhaust pipe it routed too low! It’s got high Exhaust! It doesn’t have low Exhaust! Its Air Cooled! It only makes 95 HP! It weighs 385 pounds! It’s not water cooled! No traction control, no ABS!

So true. We are a schizophrenic bunch. We act like we are similar, but aren't.

wpbarlow · 11-14-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jettn Jim

Not exactly what I was thinking... here's a another article on the Bimota.
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...ood-51840.html

A puzzling quote from the article...
"The 174 kg (385 lbs) dry weight and the 95 hp engine may not be the happiest combination for an off-road bike with seemingly little touring prospects,"

wpbarlow · 11-14-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jerdog53

Oh wait! Here it comes!

The Nay Sayers!! The fuel tank is too small! It has no wind protection! It’s only got a 19” front tire! The seat height is too tall and the seat is to hard or too wide to too narrow! There are no provisions for bags! There’s no sump guard! The Exhaust pipe it routed too low! It’s got high Exhaust! It doesn’t have low Exhaust! Its Air Cooled! It only makes 95 HP! It weighs 385 pounds! It’s not water cooled! No traction control, no ABS!

You forgot the bit about the probable $30k price

jerdog53 · 11-14-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wpbarlow

You forgot the bit about the probable $30k price

Your right I did.....

Dan950ser · 11-14-2012, 11:05 AM

95 hp and 385 dry sounds a lot like the super enduro with the exhaust replaced with titanium ones. I don't dig the beak look either.

Eataz · 11-15-2012, 12:42 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awXb8...ature=g-user-u

Look at 2:15, what is that?

Pomo · 11-15-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Eataz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awXb8...ature=g-user-u

Look at 2:15, what is that?

Looks like one of their production 450 rally bikes.

orange spy · 11-15-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eataz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awXb8...ature=g-user-u

Look at 2:15, what is that?

one of the most beautiful bikes ever designed

edit: Pomo beat me to it

AZ-Twin · 11-15-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wpbarlow

Here you go-- claimed 385 pounds dry and 95hp.

Might need a couple of "additions"

The Bimota looks nice!

I doubt if KTM could make a bike more tourable that is lighter than that bike. But I don't know how much that 2 valve Ducati engine weighs either, it might be an anchor. I have an old ducati 900 Monster and I love the torque that engine puts out.

View Results: Would you buy a 370 lbs wet, 80-90 HP, 700-800cc twin, priced between 690 and 990?
Tomorrow, bring it on!	276	86.52%
Too small, prefer the exisiting 990 and upcoming 1190.	19	5.96%
Too big, prefer a single.	19	5.96%
Not interested in a KTM.	5	1.57%
Voters: 319. You may not vote on this poll

11-14-2012, 07:24 AM	#198
wpbarlow Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Central NJ Oddometer: 7,982	Here you go-- claimed 385 pounds dry and 95hp. Might need a couple of "additions" __________________ Walter Barlow

11-14-2012, 07:49 AM	#199
Jettn Jim This is Liv'n!!! Joined: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast PA, Some... On HIGH ADVENTURE Most! Oddometer: 1,259	Not exactly what I was thinking... here's a another article on the Bimota. http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...ood-51840.html __________________ Britannia Composites Carls Cycle Klim USA Warp9 Wheels Trail Tech ADVstuff Here: HEL USA/moto-heaven Highway Dirtbikes

11-14-2012, 08:16 AM	#200
jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere Joined: Feb 2007 Location: 80122 Oddometer: 1,958	Oh wait! Here it comes! The Nay Sayers!! The fuel tank is too small! It has no wind protection! It’s only got a 19” front tire! The seat height is too tall and the seat is to hard or too wide to too narrow! There are no provisions for bags! There’s no sump guard! The Exhaust pipe it routed too low! It’s got high Exhaust! It doesn’t have low Exhaust! Its Air Cooled! It only makes 95 HP! It weighs 385 pounds! It’s not water cooled! No traction control, no ABS! __________________ 13 Hyperstrada 09 696 Monster "Shorter of breath and one day closer to death"

11-14-2012, 11:05 AM	#205
Dan950ser NW Shredder Joined: Sep 2010 Location: Olympia, WA Oddometer: 205	95 hp and 385 dry sounds a lot like the super enduro with the exhaust replaced with titanium ones. I don't dig the beak look either. __________________ 2007 KTM 950 Super Enduro R: titanium Q's, CJ Rack, H2W Jetting, Scott's triples and dampner and more to come. 2005 CR 500AFC: Need more be said BEAST!!!

11-07-2012, 09:02 PM	#196
Idle Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Northern California Oddometer: 426	Hard to believe but there's a 60° v-Twin motorcycle that claims 324 pounds wet. Lots of hand laid composites and state of the art engineering concepts. So what if it's made of cheese, it's a lightweight v-twin innitt? Just stating that it isn't asking too much to build a bike like Lukas has outlined. It should be easily achievable. The bike is easy, the engine, notsomuch.. Aprilia, BRP, Rotax, KTM, and a few others have been working on it for a while.

11-15-2012, 12:42 PM	#206
Eataz Adventurer Joined: Sep 2012 Location: Sweden, In the middle Oddometer: 25	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awXb8...ature=g-user-u Look at 2:15, what is that?

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