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Old 10-30-2012, 12:06 PM   #31
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Here's another twist I then called San Jose BMW they told me my vin # didn't have enough didgets that it should be a 13 didget # located on the rail under the right carb well mine is a 7 didget # starting with 618 that is stamped into the rail up by the headstock and there is also the riveted plate with the same # and the mtr has the same # also but they say they can't look it up because they need a 13 didget # any ideas ?
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:36 PM   #32
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...they told me my vin # didn't have enough digits that it should be a 13 digit # located on the rail under the right carb...
The guy obviously isn't familiar with the pre - 1980s bikes! Before the 13 digit thing was mandated, they were all 7 digits - on the head tube or gusset, and the engine by the dipstick.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:23 PM   #33
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What is a 13 digit VIN? My pre 80's Beemers had 7 digits and post 80 have 17 digits.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:35 PM   #34
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Maybe he said 17 all I know it was alot more #'s than I had also I talked to BMW NA and they said they had no way of tracking what bikes were updated with a new tranny they said that recalls do not expire but it would be up to the dealer and them to decide weather to replace it they sounded like if it hasn't failed yet it's probably ok
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:35 PM   #35
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He's not looking for parts. It's a recall. He needs to see if his bike was inspected or repaired as part of the recall mentioned above. That info probably is NOT in the computer... anyone's computer. Anyone know if they marked the boxes in any way after inspection? A paint dot or a stamp in the case somewhere maybe?
Info is instantly available for all VIN's that have or have not yet had the recall front wheel. Expect same info on that tranny recall or any German factory or US DOT recall. All dealers can have that info if they want to just call it up on their system. If they don't want to, then they are just negligent or incompetant or LYING. Pick one.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:44 PM   #36
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Info is instantly available for all VIN's that have or have not yet had the recall front wheel. Expect same info on that tranny recall or any German factory or US DOT recall. All dealers can have that info if they want to just call it up on their system. If they don't want to, then they are just negligent or incompetant or LYING. Pick one.
So, whenever BMW computerized things, probably in the mid 80's I'd guess, they went back and manually digitized all their paper records of which bikes received a recall fix in the 70s? How far back did they go? I find this tough to believe, but if anyone would do it, it would be the germans.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:05 PM   #37
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:47 PM   #38
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I think you should "Buy this Bike" but always a butt - Don't pay $6200


And you would pay?
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:50 PM   #39
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What is a 13 digit VIN? My pre 80's Beemers had 7 digits and post 80 have 17 digits.
I called two different dealers and BMW of North America. All said the Vin was invalid. I have 7 numbers. They all said vins usually start with a letter for 1977.

They all said they could not look up the tranny recall and give me a serial number range of affected r100rs's.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:23 PM   #40
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One dealer i called said this. As the bike has likely sat for may years you should expect to have to replace all the seals within 3000 miles. Trans seals, rear main, rear drive, etc. In summary he said this could cost several thousands of dollars. I am pretty handy with a wrench but he said that for many of the seals you need special tools.

I plead ignorance here but sounds like if I paid what he was asking I could be into the bike for $9000.

Truth or BS in your opinions? What would you offer or would you just walk away?
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:26 PM   #41
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Here is the serial number page for R100RS's.... seven digits

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/chassispage...hassis1000.htm
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:32 PM   #42
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Here is the serial number page for R100RS's.... seven digits

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/chassispage...hassis1000.htm
Thanks. Sad that the people I called said it was not a valid number. Even BMW of North America said it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:57 PM   #43
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Most BMW shops don't know what an Airhead is, and would want one darkening their door... when you find a dealer who likes and supports Airheads, give them your $$ and keep them in business!

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Old 10-30-2012, 06:03 PM   #44
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One dealer i called said this. As the bike has likely sat for may years you should expect to have to replace all the seals within 3000 miles. Trans seals, rear main, rear drive, etc. In summary he said this could cost several thousands of dollars. I am pretty handy with a wrench but he said that for many of the seals you need special tools.

I plead ignorance here but sounds like if I paid what he was asking I could be into the bike for $9000.

Truth or BS in your opinions? What would you offer or would you just walk away?
Anytime you are dealing with a 35 year old machine, be it a motorcycle, car, boat, ect, you need to expect higher operating costs. Especially on a vehicle you do not no the history on. Yes old seals are going to fail, bearings have rust spots, old electrical systems short, points fail, ect. It is a truth, not BS.

But it is also the apeal for me. Learning how to fix and adjust to keep her running is part of vintage ownership. Parts are also higher, so becoming self sufficent is important if you are worried about the cost.

All in all, having to spend several thousand dollars on an old motorcycle is not unheard of, and if that is going to break the budget, I might look for a newer model.

But then again, a 77 RS is friking sweeeeet.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:12 PM   #45
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Anytime you are dealing with a 35 year old machine, be it a motorcycle, car, boat, ect, you need to expect higher operating costs. Especially on a vehicle you do not no the history on. Yes old seals are going to fail, bearings have rust spots, old electrical systems short, points fail, ect. It is a truth, not BS.

But it is also the apeal for me. Learning how to fix and adjust to keep her running is part of vintage ownership. Parts are also higher, so becoming self sufficent is important if you are worried about the cost.

All in all, having to spend several thousand dollars on an old motorcycle is not unheard of, and if that is going to break the budget, I might look for a newer model.

But then again, a 77 RS is friking sweeeeet.
It would not break the budget but how dumb should I be? By all my research it is about 2k over value with the potential to put another 2 to 3k in it. I mean I would like to ride it more than wrench it.

History is the carbs had to be totally redone so I suspect it sat. That is what I base the seal thing on.

I don't mind wrenching but the special tool thing might put it way out of reach. Just thinking out loud.....

And yes it is sweet. I test drove it. Couldn't help wondering if the engine oil had last been changed in 1980 or the rear end fluid in 1981.... Was I causing damage to this sweet ride? Was I mixing peanut butter in the crank case?
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