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10-31-2012, 10:29 AM
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Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2012
Location: NW Washington
Oddometer: 44
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Jet Stuck in Carb
Man, this left carb is grungy! I've gotten it torn apart but one of the jets is stuck and I've half stripped the flat head screw trying to get it out. Should I try soaking it in something or will I have to drill it out?
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10-31-2012, 10:31 AM
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/5 dirt road wannabe
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: North Alabama mountains
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I've had pretty good success on other stuck fasteners with a 50-50 mix of acetone and ATF and soaking for a good while.
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10-31-2012, 10:34 AM
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Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Manzanillo MX, occasionally Seattle
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that or try some heat on it.
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10-31-2012, 10:45 AM
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Two Wheel Addict
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: ABQ, NM
Oddometer: 1,960
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Use an impact driver instead of screwdriver--even if all you do is twist the impact drive instead of striking it. If just twisting it doesn't free it, strike it gently with a heavy hammer.
I have had good luck with Kroil for loosening. |
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10-31-2012, 10:48 AM
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Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2012
Location: NW Washington
Oddometer: 44
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I actually did try tapping the outer housing to loosen it and successfully bent the housing so, now I get to fix that as well.
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10-31-2012, 10:49 AM
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turd polisher
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Midcoast, Maine
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I'd try gentle heat. A heat gun, or boil it for a bit. Aluminum expands quite a bit when heated, more than most anything else, which will loosen things up. Be patient, and don't lose your cool.
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10-31-2012, 06:40 PM
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Still on 3 wheels
Joined: May 2009
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+1 on the heat gun.
I use one to warm up pistons...."sticky" wrist pins slide right in / out with a little expansion of the aluminum. |
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10-31-2012, 06:54 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Central Florida
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I ended up drilling it a little and using an extractor on it. Was in JUST the same place and freaking out about having to replace a carb
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10-31-2012, 06:58 PM
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Beemerholics Anonymous
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: Jackson's Bottom Oregon
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If you're applying enough force to bugger the threads, you're over-doing it!
Be patient. That's the very first ingredient. Give the penetrating oil time to ... uh ... penetrate. Heating and cooling cycles make it easier for the oil to penetrate and breaks the bond between the jet and aluminum body. Go back and forth - tighten, loosen, but don't ever use enough force to bugger the screw head! I know, it seems weird to try to tighten it, and it seems counter intuitive, but it is one of the successful techniques. I wouldn't suggest tapping on the screw or the body - they're both way too soft!!! Another thing that's worked for me is aluminum cleaner. I always used to use a Zep product for cleaning aluminum but I can't get it any more. The next best is Eagle1 mag wheel cleaner. Don't get the one safe for clear coated wheels - it's not as strong! Work on it a little at a time. Say ten or fifteen minutes, and just leave it if the jet hasn't budged yet. I've been able to salvage slide carbs like the Dellortos, with stuck slides and chokes this way. So be patient, it will free up!
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11-01-2012, 03:49 AM
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Confirmed Curmudgeon
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: backwoods Alabama
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My experience is that the float bowl will get a dab of water-- from rain, washing or the tank-- and this can wick up into the jet threads, and if the bike is left sitting for a long time the water will corrode (oxidize) the carb pot metal (a zinc-aluminum alloy) and lock the jet in. As Wirespokes says, penetrating oil, heat cycling and when the jet starts to move, turn it back and forth as the corrosion bond breaks down.
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11-01-2012, 03:55 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: S. W. Mssouri
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learn to hollow grind a flat blade screwdriver, it makes a huge difference in holding power. Then a dab of valve grinding compound on the blade, the amount of force you can apply goes way up. Then heat the body in boiling water for about 10 minutes. They always come out for me so far.
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11-01-2012, 04:23 AM
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Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2012
Location: Ct
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My left side idle jet was stuck, half of the head was already missing when I started on it. I ended up drilling it out on a mill, even after removing all but the threads, the corrosion was so bad it still would not come out. I ended up breaking the brass threads out with a small pick. Minimal damage to the body but a new jet screwed in and tightened down.
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11-01-2012, 09:55 AM
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Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Chico, California
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11-01-2012, 09:59 AM
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beat up ex flat tracker
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: chico,just below rag dump(nor-cal)
Oddometer: 6,756
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Sounds like new carb time,its all a learning process.
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11-01-2012, 11:32 AM
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ShadeTreeExpert
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Silver Spring, Md
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If you bent the housing you will probably have to post some pictures so we can see the damage. This is not good.
Start with, just which jet was stuck? Or is it still stuck? The idle or the main jet? It sounded to me like the idle jet because you said you were using a screw driver. Then again the idles mix screw is made of steel and this may be more prone to being stuck. But all of the jets can be stuck at different times. Going slow, not hurrying. Using Heat and a good corrosion attacker, Kroil is the best in my book but there are others.
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