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Old 11-02-2012, 08:39 AM   #1
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Baja 1000 race course

Hello all,

Looking forward to the race next week and was wondering how it's decided when the course will run the entire peninsula or when it will start and end in Ensenada? Do they alternate yearly?
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:11 AM   #2
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Peninsula run. Course map here: http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/sho...2012-Baja-1000
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:31 AM   #3
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Thanks.

Really though I wanted to know if there's a pattern to when it's a peninsula run or not?

Is it a peninsula run every other year?
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:59 AM   #4
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Thanks.

Really though I wanted to know if there's a pattern to when it's a peninsula run or not?

Is it a peninsula run every other year?
they try to do it that way.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:17 PM   #5
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they try to do it that way.
Ok. Makes sense.

Thanks!
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:30 PM   #6
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Well, sorta. It also has to do with special years and $.
Going a few years back...
’83 – Ensenada-Ensenada - multiple loops far north
’84 – Ensenada-I don’t remember
’85 – Ensenada-Ensenada – far south loop
’86 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’87 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’88 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’89 – one way El Alamo - LaPaz
’90 – Ojos-Ojos
’91 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’92 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’93 – Mexicalli-Mexicalli
’94 – Mexicalli-Mexicalli
’95 – one way Tijuana - LaPaz
'96 - Ensenada-Ensenada
’97 – Ensenada-Ensenada
‘98 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’99 – Ensenada-Ensenada - multiple north loops
’00 – one way Ensenada - Cabo
’01 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’02 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’03 – Ensenada-Ensenada - far south loop
’04 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’05 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’06 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’07 – one way Ensenada - Cabo
’08 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’09 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’10 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’11 – Ensenada-Ensenada
'12 - one way Ensenada-LaPaz
'13 - Northern loop
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:33 PM   #7
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Well, sorta. It also has to do with special years and $.
Going a few years back...
’83 – Ensenada-Ensenada - multiple loops far north
’84 – Ensenada-I don’t remember
’85 – Ensenada-Ensenada – far south loop
’86 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’87 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’88 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’89 – one way El Alamo - LaPaz
’90 – Ojos-Ojos
’91 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’92 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’93 – Mexicalli-Mexicalli
’94 – Mexicalli-Mexicalli
’95 – one way Tijuana - LaPaz
'96 - Ensenada-Ensenada
’97 – Ensenada-Ensenada
‘98 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’99 – Ensenada-Ensenada - multiple north loops
’00 – one way Ensenada - Cabo
’01 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’02 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’03 – Ensenada-Ensenada - far south loop
’04 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’05 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’06 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’07 – one way Ensenada - Cabo
’08 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’09 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’10 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’11 – Ensenada-Ensenada
'12 - one way Ensenada-LaPaz
'13 - Northern loop
Very interesting. Thanks for the info.

I'm considering doing it solo when I'm 40. That'd be in 5 years, 2017. Somehow I really like the mystique of the peninsula run and I was trying to see if it'd be that year in 2017. It does hit right for the on again, off again model. Also, it'd be the 50 anniversary of the race too. And it would seem that they'd want to make it a peninsula run on that anniversary. But stranger things have happened.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:13 PM   #8
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Thanks.

Really though I wanted to know if there's a pattern to when it's a peninsula run or not?

Is it a peninsula run every other year?

It used to be that every 4th year was a peninsula run, like the Olympics. The runs all the way down were considered too expensive for most privateers to afford, so most years were loops in Baja Norte (with leeway on the length being just over 1000 km some years as opposed to 1000 miles).

Then in 2000 Sal wanted to do something special with the non-normal year and the 2000 miler.

The participation has supported a peninsula run every other year since. The cost of support for a peninsula run has not gone down and the effort to adequately pre-run all the way down has not diminished, and participation has remained high regardless of the hardship to smaller teams. So as long as participants are willing to enter the longer races... enjoy.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:10 AM   #9
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It used to be that every 4th year was a peninsula run, like the Olympics. The runs all the way down were considered too expensive for most privateers to afford, so most years were loops in Baja Norte (with leeway on the length being just over 1000 km some years as opposed to 1000 miles).

Then in 2000 Sal wanted to do something special with the non-normal year and the 2000 miler.

The participation has supported a peninsula run every other year since. The cost of support for a peninsula run has not gone down and the effort to adequately pre-run all the way down has not diminished, and participation has remained high regardless of the hardship to smaller teams. So as long as participants are willing to enter the longer races... enjoy.
That all makes sense. Thanks.

Is the finishing time always 32 hours?
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:12 AM   #10
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That all makes sense. Thanks.

Is the finishing time always 32 hours?
Not sure but this years race should be about 46 to 47 hours
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:19 PM   #11
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Not sure but this years race should be about 46 to 47 hours

Yeah I figured it had to be longer since the mileage is longer.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:57 PM   #12
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Well, sorta. It also has to do with special years and $.
Going a few years back...
’83 – Ensenada-Ensenada - multiple loops far north
’84 – Ensenada-I don’t remember
’85 – Ensenada-Ensenada – far south loop
’86 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’87 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’88 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’89 – one way El Alamo - LaPaz
’90 – Ojos-Ojos
’91 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’92 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’93 – Mexicalli-Mexicalli
’94 – Mexicalli-Mexicalli
’95 – one way Tijuana - LaPaz
'96 - Ensenada-Ensenada
’97 – Ensenada-Ensenada
‘98 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’99 – Ensenada-Ensenada - multiple north loops
’00 – one way Ensenada - Cabo
’01 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’02 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’03 – Ensenada-Ensenada - far south loop
’04 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’05 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’06 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’07 – one way Ensenada - Cabo
’08 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’09 – Ensenada-Ensenada
’10 – one way Ensenada - LaPaz
’11 – Ensenada-Ensenada
'12 - one way Ensenada-LaPaz
'13 - Northern loop

The great thing about this is you were there at every one.. I dont think I have ever done anything that many years in a row..

How is the prep going ?
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:14 PM   #13
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Very interesting. Thanks for the info.

I'm considering doing it solo when I'm 40. That'd be in 5 years, 2017. Somehow I really like the mystique of the peninsula run and I was trying to see if it'd be that year in 2017. It does hit right for the on again, off again model. Also, it'd be the 50 anniversary of the race too. And it would seem that they'd want to make it a peninsula run on that anniversary. But stranger things have happened.
Last year, I saw a few solo riders. It was a loop race. Some were looking really beat towards the end, and it wasn't the 1000 mile race. Be careful on on endeavor.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:54 AM   #14
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Last year, I saw a few solo riders. It was a loop race. Some were looking really beat towards the end, and it wasn't the 1000 mile race. Be careful on on endeavor.
Oh yeah. I haven't decided for sure. That's why I'm giving myself 5 years to work things out and decide if it's too crazy, even for me.
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:31 PM   #15
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I'm giving myself 5 years to work things out and decide if it's too crazy
5 years? Baja might be all paved by then!

Someone asked in a different thread about max time for these races a couple months ago...
Last 4 times it's finished in La Paz:
Average race miles = 1035
Average hours allowed to finish = 42
Call it 25 mph minimum to finish

I don't know if they've said the max time for this year but it looks like 45

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