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Old 07-23-2013, 12:08 PM   #1
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Is a soft terrain tyre hard or soft compound?

Would a soft terrain tyre be a harder or softer compound than a hard terrain tyre?
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:37 PM   #2
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I would think that the rubber would be softer than a hard terrain compound. At least, that's my experience.
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I would think that the rubber would be softer than a hard terrain compound. At least, that's my experience.
It feels as if made of stone. It's a Dunny D755.
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How old is the tire?
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How old is the tire?
Shoot, brand new to me, I think it is about a year or so old. It has never been mounted.
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How old is the tire?
Oh I get it, no, I mean the rubber is fine but the compound is vary hard. Way harder than the stock tyre on my 2001 XR400R which is what I am replacing it with.
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Hard for soft , soft for hard.
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Hard for soft , soft for hard.
Now see, that is what I thought. Sounds completely logical because you need a soft tyre to grip the hard track, hard tyre to plow the soft loamy stuff.
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Then why are my Motoz Desert H/T (hard terrain) tires so much more hard when brand new, than my Motoz Tractionator S/T (soft terrain) tires?

From their site:

What S/T, H/T, I/T means.

S/T = Soft terrain (loose, sandy loam, pine forest, clay) great traction, shorter wear life.

I/T = Intermediate (mix of everything) all round traction, medium wear life.

I-H/T = Between Intermediate and Hard Terrain (hi speed Safari - Outback). Long wear life.

H/T = Hard Terrain (gravel roads, rocky fire trails, hard pack desert and sand). Extreme.

In other words, Soft, Middle, Hard and Extreme Hard.
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Compounds and terrain ranked tires are generally in reference to Moto-X racing. The tire manufacturers don't really care too much about developing tires for casual trail riders.

Places like Southwick with lots of Sand require a Soft terrain tire, the lugs are spaced far apart and are of a harder compound so they dig as deep into to terrain as possible.

A track with a "Blue Groove" is considered a "hard terrain" and requires a tire with closely spaced shorter knobs made of a soft sticky compound.

If you ride a "Soft Terrain" tire on rocky trails you'll start throwing knobs off the tire fairly quickly, because they knobs are stiff and break off instead of flexing and conforming to the surface.
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Compounds and terrain ranked tires are generally in reference to Moto-X racing. The tire manufacturers don't really care too much about developing tires for casual trail riders.

Places like Southwick with lots of Sand require a Soft terrain tire, the lugs are spaced far apart and are of a harder compound so they dig as deep into to terrain as possible.

A track with a "Blue Groove" is considered a "hard terrain" and requires a tire with closely spaced shorter knobs made of a soft sticky compound.

If you ride a "Soft Terrain" tire on rocky trails you'll start throwing knobs off the tire fairly quickly, because they knobs are stiff and break off instead of flexing and conforming to the surface.
I noticed the tyre on my XR400R which is stock, has a little wider spacing than the new tyre. As well, it is softer in compound, you can FEEL it. I also heard that they suck for dual sporting becuase of the soft compound. Which is kinda not true, they work OK on both street and dirt but suck on hard packed fire roads BADLY! I will try this Duunny since I bought it new for 40 bucks. I am toying with going with both a set of supermoto wheels and or just lacing up my stock hubs with 17s but I really love having the dirt wheels as well. So this time I will probably just wait for a used set of sumo wheels and keep the perfect stock wheels and tyres for the DS rides. This is still with the stock tyre.

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