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Old 11-05-2012, 06:40 PM   #31
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This is going to get messy, real quick.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:41 PM   #32
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I am an engineer, and I ride a vstrom. I can even draw pictures.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:43 PM   #33
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Sorry Doc AT I should've realized by the amount of posts you have to your name that you are an expert. My apologies!
Appology accepted, irony ignored. In all seriousness Tiggs, do some research on the science, or the last time this came up. If memory serves me correct there were some drawings that explained the physcs quite well.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:43 PM   #34
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Stand up on the pegs whenever you see a camera
Or some other riders.


I cant for long times do anything. I have to mix it up.
stand up
sit down
sit forward
sit back
sit on one cheek
then the other
stand on balls of feet
stand on heels
grip bike with knees
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:47 PM   #35
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Some bedtime Reading material chapter 3.2.1
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:52 PM   #36
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end of discussion?



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Some bedtime Reading material chapter 3.2.1
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:56 PM   #37
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end of discussion?
You could not have read it that fast, it's only the beginning of the debate.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:58 PM   #38
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Some bedtime Reading material chapter 3.2.1

Great read, thanks. Obviously way out of touch with modern biology though, everyone knows strom riders weigh more than 77 kg.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:00 PM   #39
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Great read, thanks. Obviously way out of touch with modern biology though, everyone knows strom riders weigh more than 77 kg.
not the joker who picked the rear shockie spring
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:04 PM   #40
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not the joker who picked the rear shockie spring
Insight at last...all the japanese engineers studied that book ....whilst the ktm engineers removed the seats, zip tied the test riders feet to the pegs and sent them off with full tanks. Theory, practice, and by 2013 all bikes will resemble strom.

Ps Can we start the post count for sale thread again?
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:29 PM   #41
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Apparently my post count counts, counterintuitive, but I'm countinuously countriving to counter this counfabulation.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:48 PM   #42
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I dunno quite about weighting the pegs, all this technical stuff is hard to manage unless it becomes 2nd nature.

But it definately makes the centre of gravity lower and the bike gain traction on slippery corners, this is why if you put your inside leg right out on that too-fast slippery corner (particularly if your butt is still on the seat), you actually survive rather than sliding off - you have put your COG lower and towards the apex of the corner - by transferring some of the butt-seat weight to your leg/peg.

(You should see some of the US threads arguing about the physics of this).

The COG change from sitting to standing is only relevant if your weight was first through your butt onto the seat. If your butt is hovering 1mm above the seat, the COG (because your weight is now on the pegs) is already lower; and probably a lower COG than if you were standing up tall on the pegs.

Then there's turning/leaning with your knees. Pushing outwards with the inside bar to turn (i.e. to turn left, push forward with the left bar*) Moving forward and back. Keeping your elbows up & at right angles. Looking further ahead. Keeping your butt sticking out perky when standing. FFS, one could get to be a good rider!

(or you could buy a light Husaberg and become a great rider instantly)

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*that actually works. I did it on the 990 regularly. The best way to prove it is not to put your hands on teh bars, but leaning fwd with each hand on the top of each of the fork legs/hbar mounts at high speed, if you push forward on the left one - you will distinctly and unavoidably turn LEFT. I discovered this with my feet on the rear pegs, my chest resting on my tank bag, looking through the screen, chin on the bars, half asleep at 130 on the Strzelecki track.....
...more a road rider's thing that dirt - which is why some bums-on-seats 'ADVENTURE' riders might actually benefit from it!
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:02 PM   #43
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Some bedtime Reading material chapter 3.2.1
I was reading this standing up but now my legs are tired I am sitting down, A bit like my riding style
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:15 PM   #44
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I know a Bloke who was kicked in the nuts by a horse & they swelleded up lots.

He said it caused problems with his COG.

I hope I haven't got too many post to my name to offer this morsel of gold.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:27 PM   #45
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Groan.

More COGnitive deficits.

What is this fatal attraction to the footpegs? . . . equating COG to where the weight is "carried"?
When you are standing on the ground, is your COG at the same level as the bottom of your boots?
And please, please do not even hint that the COG is really below ground level "because the ground itself underneath my boot soles is where my weight is really being carried".

(And thanks for adding a bit of standup humour, Scrobs!)
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