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Old 09-23-2013, 07:46 PM   #1
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2014 Burgman 200

Looks like the 2014 Burgman 200 will be coming to the United States.

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/09/2...ion-coming-us/
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:45 PM   #2
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Liquid cooled & fuel injected!

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Old 09-23-2013, 09:36 PM   #3
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For 2014, the two smaller Burgmans received an update and, more importantly, will be available around the world including the U.S. where the Burgman 200 has already received the an executive order from the California Air Resource Board, though we still await official confirmation from Suzuki Motor of America. To increase production for a worldwide release, Suzuki moved production of the new Burgmans to Thailand from Spain where the previous-generation scooters were manufactured.
Both models are powered by the liquid-cooled fuel-injected single-cylinder engines and continuously variable transmissions equipped on the previous models. The chassis however is new, as is the preload-adjustable rear suspension.


Guess the guy whom point out the California Emision thing 6 months ago was right .
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:54 PM   #4
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Styling cues from the 650 have been incorporated into the 200, a good thing.

The 400 looks out of place now.

I wonder if the 200 is highway capable?
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Old 09-24-2013, 05:09 AM   #5
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Should be a nice "sweetspot" scooter for those of us whom like the 125cc machines, but need to hit a true 65 - 70mph. I would assume the 200 could do it easily. It will be interesting to see if the pricing will significantly be less than the Forza 300. I would like to think it would at least be $1500 less than the Honda, but I may just be dreaming.
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Old 09-24-2013, 05:51 AM   #6
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Should be a nice "sweetspot" scooter for those of us whom like the 125cc machines, but need to hit a true 65 - 70mph. I would assume the 200 could do it easily. It will be interesting to see if the pricing will significantly be less than the Forza 300. I would like to think it would at least be $1500 less than the Honda, but I may just be dreaming.
Sweetspot has been my thought on it since I heard about it. Small and light enough that it can flick around in town but just enough power that it can hit the freeway when needed. It's probably going to be a little faster than the PCX but lighter and better MPG than the Forza.

The tall windsheild should help make the occasional freeway run even better (though I'd prefer it a little wider). The wheels look like 14" at most which is about the minimum I'd want for anything but the shortest ride on the freeway, but still usable.

The PCX is about $3500 and the Forza is about $5500, so $4500 is right down the middle and a fair price IMO. The blur 220 is a comparable size and $4000 but I'd expect to be charged 500 extra for the Suzuki. When Kymco sold the Dt 200 they charged over $5000 but it was basically the downtown 300 with nothing but the engine shrunk.

I'm guessing a price of $4500. I'd also guess a top speed in the mid 70s and MPG in the 70s. Weight around 350. It's a nice looking option.
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Old 09-24-2013, 05:54 AM   #7
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Great!

Good to see more options in the lower cc categories.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:53 AM   #8
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Good news

Hopefully Suzuki put it on a diet and its substantially lighter than the 400 Burgie. If so, thats a WIN!
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:49 AM   #9
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...I'd also guess a top speed in the mid 70s and MPG in the 70s. Weight around 350...
I would hope for better fuel economy than that. My Reflex gets in the mid-to-upper 60s (with 50cc more displacement and a carburetor). I would hope for north of 80 mpg. Let's hope weight is less than 330 lbs. but I'll bet you're pretty close with that guess (of 350).
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:35 AM   #10
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I would hope for better fuel economy than that. My Reflex gets in the mid-to-upper 60s (with 50cc more displacement and a carburetor). I would hope for north of 80 mpg. Let's hope weight is less than 330 lbs. but I'll bet you're pretty close with that guess (of 350).
There's only 4 of the previous european Burgman 200s on Fuelly and they're all under 70mpg. I doubt they made enough changes in this version to push it over 80.
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Liquid cooled & fuel injected!

WAIT. Let's see what Jerry has to say.
Thankfully there is no ABS for him to lament...I can only hope. Otherwise it will have a trifecta of fail in modern technology.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:42 AM   #12
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Sweetspot has been my thought on it since I heard about it. Small and light enough that it can flick around in town but just enough power that it can hit the freeway when needed. It's probably going to be a little faster than the PCX but lighter and better MPG than the Forza.

The tall windsheild should help make the occasional freeway run even better (though I'd prefer it a little wider). The wheels look like 14" at most which is about the minimum I'd want for anything but the shortest ride on the freeway, but still usable.

The PCX is about $3500 and the Forza is about $5500, so $4500 is right down the middle and a fair price IMO. The blur 220 is a comparable size and $4000 but I'd expect to be charged 500 extra for the Suzuki. When Kymco sold the Dt 200 they charged over $5000 but it was basically the downtown 300 with nothing but the engine shrunk.

I'm guessing a price of $4500. I'd also guess a top speed in the mid 70s and MPG in the 70s. Weight around 350. It's a nice looking option.

That's not going to happen. I'd be very surprised if it reached an actual 65.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:43 AM   #13
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Take this with a grain of salt but my local Suzuki dealer had meeting with his local rep. Suzuki is in dire straits and not to expect anything new in the pipeline. The sole exception is the new V-Strom 1000 but that was already in the pipeline before the doo doo hit the fan.

Nobody really knows anything but I would not actually expect the Burgman 200 to actually show up. Just like the 250 standard they said they were bringing in. The 250 standard actually in the works well before the new V-Strom and that apparently did not make it (YET)!
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:07 AM   #14
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That's not going to happen. I'd be very surprised if it reached an actual 65.
The PCX does 65mph with less cc's. The old version of the Burg 200 did 70mph plus and top out around mid seventies. Don'it know what they did to the newer version so 75mph is prob close to top speed. Perfect for that quick freeway jump on and off, similar to the old Honda 250cc with a carb.
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The PCX does 65mph with less cc's. The old version of the Burg 200 did 70mph plus and top out around mid seventies. Don'it know what they did to the newer version so 75mph is prob close to top speed. Perfect for that quick freeway jump on and off, similar to the old Honda 250cc with a carb.
I had both a Honda Reflex and a Big Ruckus 250. Neither would hit an actual 70. Indicated was in the mid 70's actual was upper 60's.
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