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Old 05-31-2013, 09:46 AM   #2581
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Cal has done everything he needs to, to get a factory ride, but there isn't one in the "Spanish MotoGP world championship". What amazes me is that he's also very popular with the fans because of how he is and how he rides and yet no one seems to be interested, because of his nationality.

If the top 5 become Spanish, I think I'll turn off and go and watch something else.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:03 AM   #2582
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That's the F'ing problem these days..people should stop being poosies and the racing should be about the F'ing racing.
If someone would step up from England to give him a huge sponsorship package, he would have no problem getting a factory ride.

#1 rule of racing, of any sort, is you need a huge pile of money.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:09 AM   #2583
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When he first joined Ducati, Stoner ripped Honda apart for breaking promises to satellite teams and called them liars.
Stoner was talking about Michelin, not Honda.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:15 AM   #2584
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Stoner was talking about Michelin, not Honda.
Don't make me dig up the quote. He called Honda liars for claiming the satellite teams were getting regular chassis and engine updates.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:30 AM   #2585
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The problem for Cal is that it's not an old school kind of organization anymore. He expects to be treated fairly and rewarded for his performance. Fair enough but politics and nationality play a more important role these days. Cal doesn't play politics, he doesn't seem to whine either. I'll give him that. Threatening to quit isn't really a good tactic unless he plans to back it up. I doubt he really intends to do that. It just sounds like another not so well thought out comment from Cal of the kind that we've heard before.
I do agree that MotoGP needs guys like Cal. I just hope he can learn to keep a little calmer and a little more tactful.


I like Cal, but have you not payed attention to anything he's said in the press in the last say..two years???

Cal whines more than most. Can you remember the last time he didn't complain that he wasn't on a factory during an interview? I can't. Remember Qatar where he refused to use the word "Yamaha" because he was stuck on that shitty 2012 World Championship winning bike?

"I'd like to thank Team Monster .....Tech3 "

If Cal was faster than his teammate last year he'd have factory bike under him right now. He wasn't...
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:33 AM   #2586
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I like Cal, but have you not payed attention to anything he's said in the press in the last say..two years???

Cal whines more than most. Can you remember the last time he didn't complain that he wasn't on a factory during an interview? I can't. Remember Qatar where he refused to use the word "Yamaha" because he was stuck on that shitty 2012 World Championship winning bike?

"I'd like to thank Team Monster .....Tech3 "

If Cal was faster than his teammate last year he'd have factory bike under him right now. He wasn't...
You have a different definition of whine than I do. See Stoner for a real whine.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:37 AM   #2587
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Cal has done everything he needs to, to get a factory ride, but there isn't one in the "Spanish MotoGP world championship". What amazes me is that he's also very popular with the fans because of how he is and how he rides and yet no one seems to be interested, because of his nationality.

If the top 5 become Spanish, I think I'll turn off and go and watch something else.
Except beat his teammate last year...

And if Yamaha thought he could take on MM in the coming years they wouldn't care if he was from the moon, he'd be on a factory bike.

Name one Spaniard on a bike better than Cal's M1 who isn't a clearly more talented rider?

Thought so.


As for your "top 5" thing. You don't think Dorna knows this? Being Spanish is working against riders at this point. Bradley is on one of the best bikes on the grid BECAUSE of his passport, not in spite of it.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:45 AM   #2588
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You have a different definition of whine than I do. See Stoner for a real whine.
Cal whined so much about his shitty bike that Herve had to come out and say Cal was damn near on a factory bike a few weeks ago. Has Herve ever had to do this before?
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:47 AM   #2589
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Cal whined so much about his shitty bike that Herve had to come out and say Cal was damn near on a factory bike a few weeks ago. Has Herve ever had to do this before?
Like I say you have a different definition. Complaining and whining are two different things to me. Apparently they are the same to you.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:24 AM   #2590
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MotoGP needs more guys like Cal. He's a man that says what's on his mind and calls bullshit when he sees it. He reminds me of an old school racer and I love that about him.
Yeah, exactly right! In these days of media training, its refreshing to have someone speak their mind. Common enough in Moto3 amongst the Aussie and Brit contingent...

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Old 05-31-2013, 11:24 AM   #2591
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Like I say you have a different definition. Complaining and whining are two different things to me. Apparently they are the same to you.
They both wined.

Still like both of them though.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:02 PM   #2592
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"I'd like to thank my team, for all their hard work, I'd like to thank Yamaha, I'd like to thank my sponsors, who have been awesome for all their support. Yeah, we did great today."

Zzzzzzzzzz.

As we say in the UK, fuck that for a game of soldiers. We need people with character. Go read Fogarty's biography, those guys all despised each other. Go watch the interviews from the 90s, with Lawson, Schwantz, Rainey. They were characters. They were not toeing the company line. Too much corporatism at the moment in MotoGP. We need to stir that up.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:10 PM   #2593
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"I'd like to thank my team, for all their hard work, I'd like to thank Yamaha, I'd like to thank my sponsors, who have been awesome for all their support. Yeah, we did great today."

Zzzzzzzzzz.

As we say in the UK, fuck that for a game of soldiers. We need people with character. Go read Fogarty's biography, those guys all despised each other. Go watch the interviews from the 90s, with Lawson, Schwantz, Rainey. They were characters. They were not toeing the company line. Too much corporatism at the moment in MotoGP. We need to stir that up.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:52 PM   #2594
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"I'd like to thank my team, for all their hard work, I'd like to thank Yamaha, I'd like to thank my sponsors, who have been awesome for all their support. Yeah, we did great today."

Zzzzzzzzzz.

As we say in the UK, fuck that for a game of soldiers. We need people with character. Go read Fogarty's biography, those guys all despised each other. Go watch the interviews from the 90s, with Lawson, Schwantz, Rainey. They were characters. They were not toeing the company line. Too much corporatism at the moment in MotoGP. We need to stir that up.
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:43 PM   #2595
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Fogerty?!?!?! Who mentioned that prick's name?

Talk about a guy you could love to hate. I spent I dunno how many years living on the edge of my couch hoping Aaron Slight would get him, but the bastard can ride a bike unfortunately.

MotoGP is like society, no more or less. I rekn in this city down the road I could get "Community Service" for pouting at a red light.
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