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Old 07-16-2013, 04:07 PM   #3211
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Would love to hear Kropotkin's / Motomatters' opinion of Nicky's future...
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:09 PM   #3212
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Ahh ok, I knew he had done some other stuff. Thank you for the heads up on AMA stuff. Awesome.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:20 PM   #3213
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The 999R utterly dominated on the track from day 1. First weekend of the 2003 season: pole position, two fastest laps and two wins. Hodgeson went on to win the first nine races of the year.

It's still my all time favorite sport bike and while the masses of Ducati posers might not have appreciated them back then, they're pretty collectable (and priced accordingly) now.
That was the Ducati Cup era. Suzuki, Petronas and a the Ducati 999s of the factory team were all that was left of the big teams in WSBK. There were only a handful of privateers racing Hondas, Kawasaki or Yamahas. Factory Ducati simply had no competition that season. Hodgson discussed.

On the upside, many predicted the end of WSBK and Ducati's commitment to the series kept it going through a rough patch.

The 999 was cool bike that looked great once they got rid of those black bits on the front fairing. Remember, the 999 had to compete against the new era of liter sportbikes form Japan introduced in 2003/04 that all made over 140hp and sold for just about 1/3 the price of the 999r and several thousand less than the base model 999. It was a very good bike with bad timing in the market.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:22 PM   #3214
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Would love to hear Kropotkin's / Motomatters' opinion of Nicky's future...
Why?
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:26 PM   #3215
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Why?
What's your problem ?
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:49 PM   #3216
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What's your problem ?

I would like to know too.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:51 PM   #3217
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I'd prefer to hear facts rather than asking someone to speculate.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:52 PM   #3218
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The 999R utterly dominated on the track from day 1. First weekend of the 2003 season: pole position, two fastest laps and two wins. Hodgeson went on to win the first nine races of the year.

It's still my all time favorite sport bike and while the masses of Ducati posers might not have appreciated them back then, they're pretty collectable (and priced accordingly) now.
The only competition was other Ducatis.

1 United Kingdom Hodgson Ducati 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 Ret 2 2 2 2 5 2 1 2 4 1 Ret 489
2 Spain Xaus Ducati 2 2 2 2 4 4 7 Ret Ret 5 3 3 1 1 Ret 1 Ret 4 1 2 1 1 2 1 386
3 United Kingdom Toseland Ducati 4 3 DSQ 5 3 5 4 5 3 1 2 4 2 Ret 3 Ret 6 3 4 Ret Ret Ret 5 2 271
4 France Laconi Ducati 5 Ret 6 4 2 7 2 4 4 4 4 6 3 4 Ret 4 4 8 Ret 4 3 2 6 16 267
5 Spain Lavilla Suzuki 7 6 3 7 5 2 3 2 Ret Ret Ret 2 4 5 Ret 5 7 6 Ret 3 4 3 4 4 256
6 United Kingdom Walker Ducati 3 4 7 6 Ret Ret 6 6 5 3 9 8 5 8 5 3 3 Ret 5 8 Ret 5 3 3 234
7 Italy Chili Ducati Ret Ret Ret 3 Ret 3 5 3 2 11 7 7 Ret 3 1 Ret 9 7 3 5 5 Ret Ret Ret 197
8 Australia Martin Ducati 6 5 4 9 15 Ret 9 7 6 6 Ret Ret 6 9 Ret Ret 14 Ret 9 11 6 Ret 7 5 139
9 Italy Pedercini Ducati 8 9 10 14 7 Ret 10 10 9 10 11 11 8 6 Ret 10 Ret 16 12 14 Ret 6 Ret 11 112
10 Italy Borciani Ducati 9 10 9 10 13 13 8 8 7 9 10 13 11 14 10 9 Ret 14 Ret 13 10 11 Ret 14 111
11 Italy Sanchini Kawasaki Ret 13 13 12 11 10 14 12 11 12 13 14 9 11 9 8 15 15 10 12 8 8 10 10 108
12 Australia Corser Petronas Ret 7 5 8 Ret 12 13 Ret 12 14 16 Ret 7 10 8 Ret Ret Ret 6 9 7 7 8 Ret 107
13 Spain Borja Ducati 14 8 12 15 10 9 Ret 7 Ret Ret Ret 12 11 7 12 Ret Ret 16 11 9 9 7 87
14 Italy Clementi Kawasaki 11 14 11 11 Ret 8 Ret Ret Ret 13 14 16 10 13 Ret Ret 13 13 8 7 9 Ret Ret 9 76
15 Italy Bussei Ducati Ret 11 14 Ret 12 11 Ret 13 10 Ret 12 12 16 16 7 6 52
16 United Kingdom Byrne Ducati 1 1 50

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Old 07-16-2013, 05:16 PM   #3219
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The 999R utterly dominated on the track from day 1. First weekend of the 2003 season: pole position, two fastest laps and two wins. Hodgeson went on to win the first nine races of the year.

It's still my all time favorite sport bike and while the masses of Ducati posers might not have appreciated them back then, they're pretty collectable (and priced accordingly) now.
This is actually the better tool. (IMHO) Working at the track one day, a friend was racing his 749R, in full Mat Black livery. And suddenly, I 'got it'!! (Aestheticly) He offered me a few laps at the end of the day, and, so, I had to have one. Perfect balance. Noice! 2004, the go.

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Old 07-16-2013, 05:23 PM   #3220
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The only competition was other Ducatis.

1 United Kingdom Hodgson Ducati 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 Ret 2 2 2 2 5 2 1 2 4 1 Ret 489
2 Spain Xaus Ducati 2 2 2 2 4 4 7 Ret Ret 5 3 3 1 1 Ret 1 Ret 4 1 2 1 1 2 1 386
3 United Kingdom Toseland Ducati 4 3 DSQ 5 3 5 4 5 3 1 2 4 2 Ret 3 Ret 6 3 4 Ret Ret Ret 5 2 271
4 France Laconi Ducati 5 Ret 6 4 2 7 2 4 4 4 4 6 3 4 Ret 4 4 8 Ret 4 3 2 6 16 267
5 Spain Lavilla Suzuki 7 6 3 7 5 2 3 2 Ret Ret Ret 2 4 5 Ret 5 7 6 Ret 3 4 3 4 4 256
6 United Kingdom Walker Ducati 3 4 7 6 Ret Ret 6 6 5 3 9 8 5 8 5 3 3 Ret 5 8 Ret 5 3 3 234
7 Italy Chili Ducati Ret Ret Ret 3 Ret 3 5 3 2 11 7 7 Ret 3 1 Ret 9 7 3 5 5 Ret Ret Ret 197
8 Australia Martin Ducati 6 5 4 9 15 Ret 9 7 6 6 Ret Ret 6 9 Ret Ret 14 Ret 9 11 6 Ret 7 5 139
9 Italy Pedercini Ducati 8 9 10 14 7 Ret 10 10 9 10 11 11 8 6 Ret 10 Ret 16 12 14 Ret 6 Ret 11 112
10 Italy Borciani Ducati 9 10 9 10 13 13 8 8 7 9 10 13 11 14 10 9 Ret 14 Ret 13 10 11 Ret 14 111
11 Italy Sanchini Kawasaki Ret 13 13 12 11 10 14 12 11 12 13 14 9 11 9 8 15 15 10 12 8 8 10 10 108
12 Australia Corser Petronas Ret 7 5 8 Ret 12 13 Ret 12 14 16 Ret 7 10 8 Ret Ret Ret 6 9 7 7 8 Ret 107
13 Spain Borja Ducati 14 8 12 15 10 9 Ret 7 Ret Ret Ret 12 11 7 12 Ret Ret 16 11 9 9 7 87
14 Italy Clementi Kawasaki 11 14 11 11 Ret 8 Ret Ret Ret 13 14 16 10 13 Ret Ret 13 13 8 7 9 Ret Ret 9 76
15 Italy Bussei Ducati Ret 11 14 Ret 12 11 Ret 13 10 Ret 12 12 16 16 7 6 52
16 United Kingdom Byrne Ducati 1 1 50

I think you may be missing a year there somewhere? No Bayliss? He won champs on all of them.. (And a one off on the Turnip Truck. But we won't go there, will we....)
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:38 PM   #3221
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I think you may be missing a year there somewhere? No Bayliss? He won champs on all of them.. (And a one off on the Turnip Truck. But we won't go there, will we....)
Bayliss was racing MotoGP for Ducati and the Camel Honda (satellite) team for a few years before returning to WSBK and the 999R.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:03 PM   #3222
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This made me remember my 1982 Suzuki Katana (Samuri sword), which had a custom plate on it that read "Samury"? (Samuri?) I later got a Honda Hurricane 1000, which Honda claimed in an ad that "even the Ninja fears the Hurricane!"
LOL..I had a 1996 Suzuki Katana. My first ever New bike.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:41 PM   #3223
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It was a nightmare when it came out though. And a sales flop.

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it out-sold the 916/996/998 and increased Ducatis market share. The 1098 blew it out of the water but everyone was cashing in on their house equity. It may look a sales flop in comparison to the 1098 but wasn't a failure compared to previous Duc Superbikes.

Personally, I'd love to own a 999R
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:50 PM   #3224
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it out-sold the 916/996/998 and increased Ducatis market share. The 1098 blew it out of the water but everyone was cashing in on their house equity. It may look a sales flop in comparison to the 1098 but wasn't a failure compared to previous Duc Superbikes.

Personally, I'd love to own a 999R
The base 1098 was significantly cheaper MSRP (for the first year) and had a big bump in HP over the base 999. Add in less controversial styling and no wonder it sold well. As Ducatis growth over the last four years has shown, Ducati's customers don't buy because of access to cheap/easy credit.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:40 PM   #3225
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Nicky should go to BMW. It's a big improvement over the Italian flagged Audi turnip truck. It did wonders for Melandri's post Ducati career.
I can see it now, Nicky in red, white and blue on the podium.
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