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Old 07-24-2013, 03:05 PM   #3481
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I think most expect it to be done, so there is probably a good likelihood.

You have mentioned before, when something does actually happen, it doesn't stay a secret very long.
Here's the thing, though. A host of stories continue to appear on Speedweek singing Bradl's praises, and comparing him favorably to Crutchlow. Speedweek is owned and run by Gunther Wiesinger, who is also Stefan Bradl's manager. Why does Bradl's manager feel the need to keep piling the pressure on Honda if the deal is already done
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:13 PM   #3482
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Here's the thing, though. A host of stories continue to appear on Speedweek singing Bradl's praises, and comparing him favorably to Crutchlow. Speedweek is owned and run by Gunther Wiesinger, who is also Stefan Bradl's manager. Why does Bradl's manager feel the need to keep piling the pressure on Honda if the deal is already done
I gotcha. I believe there is still quite a bit of negotiating going on behind the scenes with all parties, including Ezpeleta.

It is in his best interest to find spots for Crutchlow, Bradl, and even Hayden.

Everyone that thinks Nicky should just give up and go to WSBK only needs to look at the number of views and replies on the WSBK Moscow thread vs. the Moto GP Laguna thread in this very forum to see why he would/should be reluctant to do that.
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:26 PM   #3483
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Has any rider ever signed a contract and not announced the deal immediately?
What reasons could one have to keep it on the down low?
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:27 PM   #3484
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I gotcha. I believe there is still quite a bit of negotiating going on behind the scenes with all parties, including Ezpeleta.

It is in his best interest to find spots for Crutchlow, Bradl, and even Hayden.

Everyone that thinks Nicky should just give up and go to WSBK only needs to look at the number of views and replies on the WSBK Moscow thread vs. the Moto GP Laguna thread in this very forum to see why he would/should be reluctant to do that.
I would prefer to see Nicky stay in MotoGP. But he'd probably be a big boost to WSBK if he wen't there. As far as US fans anyway.
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:35 PM   #3485
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Has any rider ever signed a contract and not announced the deal immediately?
What reasons could one have to keep it on the down low?
Happens all the time. Signing the rider is step one, then all of the sponsors on both sides of the deal have to be straightened out, and once that's agreed, the announcement can be made. If a big sponsor of the team the rider is leaving has a massive PR event scheduled for the day after the contracts are signed, they don't want all the talk to be of how the rider who has shown up to promote them is about to go elsewhere.
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:36 PM   #3486
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Has any rider ever signed a contract and not announced the deal immediately?
What reasons could one have to keep it on the down low?
That is a very good point.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:20 PM   #3487
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That is a very good point.
Or not.

A related aside: It seems to be assumed that Bradl's recent turn of speed is due to him needing to perform in order to keep his job. But doesn't it also coincide with his switching to Brembo brakes?
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:24 PM   #3488
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It seems to be assumed that Bradl's recent turn of speed is due to him needing to perform in order to keep his job. But doesn't it also coincide with his switching to Brembo brakes?
Also a very good point.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:46 PM   #3489
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Hey, I'm sure Mr. Casket works for Glory and not a paycheck . . .
I make a comfortable salary, thanks, enough to pay the bills and that's it, nothing extra, nothing in savings, 401K is sparse, kids about to enter college and I hope they'll get good scholarships.

I seriously doubt Cal wants to circle around with the CRTs until he is done - not an honorable way to end your career - as I said, racers race to WIN, not just for the paycheck. And Duc had plenty of chances to fix things while the GOAT was racing for them - and coudn't. What makes anyone think they can now or in the next 1-2 years?

But enough speculation, I haven't seen Cal speak out on what he thinks of all this? Guess we'll have to wait until Indy to find out.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:55 PM   #3490
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What makes anyone think they can now or in the next 1-2 years?
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From the posts in this thread it would seem no one thinks that.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:11 PM   #3491
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From the posts in this thread it would seem no one thinks that.

I think they are actually getting WORSE!!!!
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:52 PM   #3492
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I am with Harvey on this one..the smart rider knows the career does not last long.....and the more money you have, the longer it will last. Happens all the time is most of the major sports...players go to teams for the big paycheck, not necessarily for the chance to win the Cup(hockey) or the Superbowl or World Series.

ie: Nicky too stayed on the turnip truck so long since it was a good paycheck, good linked sponsor deals, and not like there were any other options( in GP) anyway.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:03 PM   #3493
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:11 PM   #3494
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A related aside: It seems to be assumed that Bradl's recent turn of speed is due to him needing to perform in order to keep his job. But doesn't it also coincide with his switching to Brembo brakes?
Could be the brakes. Although I'd like to take credit for coining a new term to describe riders who suddenly get faster at contract time: xausing. Suggested usage: "Bradl appears to be xausing his way to the front."
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:07 AM   #3495
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^^^ This. Real racers should want to race to WIN, not for $$. I just don't get it. Ducati = dead end career, nothing more, nothing less.
Take Dovi as an example...I think he knows he is not a no1 factory rider...He get an offer that will set him up for life,and the bike must come right sooner or later...what would you do?
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