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Old 08-01-2013, 01:51 PM   #3631
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Now we will be able to relive this year's questioning from Nick Harris to Dovi about the difficulties of riding the ducati all over again just like we did with Dovi from the questions to Rossi.

"Cal, of course you always knew it was going to be a challenge but things with the Ducati are really difficult aren't they?" "Did you expect it to be such a challenge?"
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:55 PM   #3632
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I wonder if Cal would autograph this for me?

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Old 08-01-2013, 02:03 PM   #3633
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Wow! How did I miss all this?



Well, my first reaction to Cal is

I'll say it again and suffer your wrath; people who pursue competitive careers want to get paid like their peers. Cal has been standing on all these podiums making less than tip money compared to the other two riders on that podium. He has been quite open about how disrespected he feels. He should!

I am sure Lin jarvis wanted to keep him, but I don't believe for a moment that they were going to pay him like a factory rider. Maybe they offered him a raise, but it couldn't have been close. He was insulted.

Meanwhile, he's got Ducati chasing him hard. They saw a glimmer last season, but he blew them away this season, just like he blew away every other observer. He is as fast as anybody even though he rides a second tier machine. I say good on Ducati too. Nobody knows how fast CC can get any more than we know how fast MM can get.

For Cal it probably won't work out as well as he hopes, but if he's smart, he will make enough money in two seasons to secure his future. I am sure that is what he is pursuing first and foremost. And if it works out better than we all fear, he will likely be a hot prospect during his next silly season.

Will he win a MotoGP title? Not this contract. Ever? Maybe. He seems as talented and anybody out there.

Ducati won't be a turnip truck forever. Audi likes being successful racing unusual vehicles; Quattro's, diesel's and such. They will solve their weaknesses eventually. Maybe as soon as this winter.

I feel bad about Hayden. I wonder what they will do with him? He's got fans so you'd think they'd try and work something out to keep him on a Duc. I'd love to see him back on a Honda MotoGP machine, though. I don't want to see him back on a Superbike. Particlarly the Ducati version.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:14 PM   #3634
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I dont blame him for doing it, but we dont have to like it!! Still, i wish him luck and hope he can ride the wheels off the piece of shit!
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:18 PM   #3635
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For all those saying "poor Cal"

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Old 08-01-2013, 02:35 PM   #3636
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Interesting piece. Thanks for the link.

Blaming the MotoGP Duc's struggles on the 90-deg V4 arrangement has always made me wonder how Ducati managed to make their Superbike chassis work, given the much longer stroke of a 1200cc twin.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:55 PM   #3637
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Back in the days of Edwards and Bayliss I seem to recall reading the Honda had traction issues and the Ducati wouldn't turn in. Apparently Ducati don't keep track.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:59 PM   #3638
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Is Pol now guaranteed a factory seat in 2015?
I hope not, that would leave Rossi without a ride in 2015.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:38 PM   #3639
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I hope not, that would leave Rossi without a ride in 2015.
Unless Honda snatches Jorge.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #3640
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Unless Honda snatches Jorge.
Honda couldn't be further away from that.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #3641
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Well, scratch another promising career.

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Old 08-01-2013, 06:26 PM   #3642
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I hope not, that would leave Rossi without a ride in 2015.
Rossi has a seat at Yamaha for as long as he wants. Otherwise Crutchlow wouldn't have to leave.

And I don't see Honda chasing Lorenzo again. The have Marquez, and a very fat talent pipeline.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:22 PM   #3643
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Squishy Pirellis.
Aha, great to see someone interested in the important stuff!

Yes, I remember your making that point in a previous discussion on this issue. And it's a good answer if tyre heat is the issue.

But Cameron's piece (on the new Honda motor) points to high steering effort as the Duc's major issue at present, citing no lesser an insider than Paolo Ciabatti. From the article:

"Think of how factory rider Andrea Dovizioso has recently qualified a lot higher than he has finished. When I asked Ducati MotoGP Project Manager Paolo Ciabatti about this, he said it is because “our bike is quite physical to ride.” That is, it takes a lot of muscle to heave it around. One or two fast laps in qualifying are no problem, but 24 to 30 laps of racing are exhausting. This suggests the Ducati still has the slower steering geometry required to compensate for less-than-optimal weight on the front tire."

So Cameron implies this is a geometry issue. What I am failing to get is how squishier rubber can solve the geometry issue. Or conversely, how adding caster angle and trail gets more heat into the front tyre.

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Old 08-01-2013, 10:13 PM   #3644
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May I offer this link as an answer to your tire vs. geometry question?
http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/30...utm_source=rss

I think it got buried in the "turnip truck frenzy"
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:58 PM   #3645
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May I offer this link as an answer to your tire vs. geometry question?
http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/30...utm_source=rss

I think it got buried in the "turnip truck frenzy"
Interesting. Do tires really cool off that much between corners? I would not have thought so, but these guys know more than I do!
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