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Old 08-02-2013, 02:47 AM   #3646
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Back in the days of Edwards and Bayliss I seem to recall reading the Honda had traction issues and the Ducati wouldn't turn in. Apparently Ducati don't keep track.
The ownership of Ducati has changed at least three times since Bayliss/Edwards 2002.

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I hope not, that would leave Rossi without a ride in 2015.
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Unless Honda snatches Jorge.
Pol can have a factory bike with a factory contract on the T3 team. I am sure that will be his arrangement, too.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:56 AM   #3647
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:16 AM   #3648
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At the BT Sport launch, Scott Redding confirmed to Jake Humphrey that he would ride in ‪#‎MotoGP‬ in 2014... Expect an announcement in the coming weeks!
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:23 AM   #3649
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Cal had the choice of either riding for Tech 3 for a little money (relatively) and never winning a championship, or riding for Ducati for a lot more money and never winning a championship. You all go on about podiums and a chance of winning a race here and there but how did winning the odd race go for Vermeulen, or Elias? Cal wasn't secure at Tech 3 (pretty sure Yamaha made that clear when they signed Pol) so why the hell wouldn't he go get paid at Ducati?

On the point about the Ducati being physically hard to ride... I'm guessing it's not hard to ride because it takes strength to muscle it around. I think it's hard to ride because it's so bloody taxing trying to ride it near the limit when it gives no indication what that limit is. Even Stoner, who was known for his ability to find - and ride on - the limit would crash the thing and not know why!
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:38 AM   #3650
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Well for me it's still kinda sad, that a very good rider goes to ride something, that everyone including himself, knows fully well doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. Good on him, if he gets paid well, but I thought these guys have more than just money only motivating them. Let's see, what a couple of years on 7th-9th place will do to him. It has put out the fire in many good riders before.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:42 AM   #3651
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Rossi has a seat at Yamaha for as long as he wants. Otherwise Crutchlow wouldn't have to leave.

And I don't see Honda chasing Lorenzo again. The have Marquez, and a very fat talent pipeline.
C'mon Jack Miller....
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:46 AM   #3652
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:01 AM   #3653
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Well for me it's still kinda sad, that a very good rider goes to ride something, that everyone including himself, knows fully well doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. Good on him, if he gets paid well, but I thought these guys have more than just money only motivating them. Let's see, what a couple of years on 7th-9th place will do to him. It has put out the fire in many good riders before.
Absolutely agree. I'd love to see Cal on a 3rd factory Yamaha but that just isn't going to happen right now. No point Cal holding out for something he knows won't materialise.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:24 AM   #3654
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Absolutely agree. I'd love to see Cal on a 3rd factory Yamaha but that just isn't going to happen right now. No point Cal holding out for something he knows won't materialise.
money over podiums, simple as that
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:28 AM   #3655
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The press releases

Crutchlow

http://motomatters.com/press_release...low_signs.html

Espargaro

http://motomatters.com/press_release...aro_signs.html

Sorry to see Cal go, and fuck Ducati. But I am interested to see what Pol can/will do.

I think Bradley Smith has done reasonably well on the T3 Yamaha, too. I wonder if he will continue to improve?
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:45 AM   #3656
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May I offer this link as an answer to your tire vs. geometry question?
http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/30...utm_source=rss

I think it got buried in the "turnip truck frenzy"
Thanks, yes I'd seen that.

Can't see how it does more than deepen the mystery. Open to suggestions.

There, Cameron speculates, with the help of Burgess, that the 90-deg V-four Honda is getting more heat into the front tyre under brakes than the inline-four Yamaha.

However clever Honda has been with its motor, it is hard to see how it can have more mass forward than the Yamaha design, or more freedom to place the front tyre where it needs to be while retaining optimal steering.

Perhaps it is really all about the height of the centre of mass, as again Cameron suggests, which is where Burgess was going with the Ducati. I seem to recall he had Ducati raise the motor in the chassis, but was stymied because Ducati could not also reposition the output shaft and swingarm pivot to restore the geometry he wanted from the driveline.

In this recent piece at the Cycle World site, which unfortunately won't comfort Hayden fans, Ciabatti foreshadows "new stuff" for the Duc "in September". Maybe this is redesigned crankcases, which will do just what Burgess and Rossi had asked for last year.

If it is, and it happens to work, then maybe things will work out for Crutchlow after all.

Here's hoping.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:52 AM   #3657
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Latest rumor: Hayden and Melandri to Forward Racing.
On proddy Honda or Aprilia or . . . ?
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:08 AM   #3658
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On proddy Honda or Aprilia or . . . ?
Yamahas with spec ECU. That part is more certain than the rider rumors.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:37 AM   #3659
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So, why didn't Yamaha offer the contract to Aleix instead of Pol? Aleix seems more consistent.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:41 AM   #3660
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Edwards

Anyone know what's going on with Edwards?
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