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Old 10-09-2013, 05:57 AM   #4771
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:32 AM   #4772
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Class act to the end.

How recent is that?? I think the Ape thing may be up in the air now.
I think it just came out yesterday in English, a few days ago in whatever it was I read a translation of. I believe the interview happened during the Aragon weekend.

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Old 10-09-2013, 07:39 AM   #4773
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Biaggi is tweeting (I think) that Dall'Igna/Ducati is a done deal; announcement today...
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:51 AM   #4774
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Biaggi is tweeting (I think) that Dall'Igna/Ducati is a done deal; announcement today...
Bummer.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:28 AM   #4775
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Biaggi is twerking...
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:43 AM   #4776
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Bummer.
Indeed. I think the Proddy bike is calling to Nick. Casey did say he thinking it would be a competitive bike...can't be any worse than the CRT( no longer) bikes have been.

EDIT: and again...they need to get this fuel limit BS outta here. Racing and Fuel efficiency should not even be in the same thought....as far as I am concerned.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:53 AM   #4777
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I'm trying to keep up here......

So-

Gigi goes to Aspar and Ducati or just to Ducati?

Then Nicky is back on the TT.....PLEASE don't say this is true.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:17 AM   #4778
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I'm trying to keep up here......

So-

Gigi goes to Aspar and Ducati or just to Ducati?

Then Nicky is back on the TT.....PLEASE don't say this is true.

Gigi would be running the factory team.

Haydens contract was going to be with Aprila, not Aspar.

Aspar has been in contact with HRC for the prody racers.

The guy who owns Aspar is good buddies with Gigi. They could be convinced to take Ducatis.


Gigi knows how to build a frame, ducati already has a good engine.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:18 AM   #4779
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EDIT: and again...they need to get this fuel limit BS outta here. Racing and Fuel efficiency should not even be in the same thought....as far as I am concerned.
What technology is more important for a manufacturer to be working on? A large part of why someone like Honda is in motogp is to develop technology ( not that it helped with vfr1200 gas guzzler). As an end user I am happy the manufacturer is challenged with fuel economy if it means the motorcycle or car I drive in 10 years can have high performance with lower fuel usage.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:20 AM   #4780
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I'm trying to keep up here......

So-

Gigi goes to Aspar and Ducati or just to Ducati?

Then Nicky is back on the TT.....PLEASE don't say this is true.
Gigi to Ducati. He would like Aspar to then run Ducatis with spec software and he would like Nicky as part of that package.

Aspar is considering. They are also talking to HRC and American Honda about running Nicky on a proddy Honda.

I am sure Aprilia still would like to be with Aspar too, but with Dall'Igna gone, nobody will want to stay with Aprilia. Sucks.

My ONLY misgivings about running a Production Honda is, there is no way HRC would stand for a production racer being competitive with their factory machines. I could be wrong, but I don't see it.

The Ducati route means more of the same until Ducati is able to produce a Dall'Igna prototype. And how long could that take? 6 months? A year? 3 years?

Dall'Igna is going to bring everything that is good about the Ape to Ducati, though.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:51 AM   #4781
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The Ducati route means more of the same until Ducati is able to produce a Dall'Igna prototype. And how long could that take? 6 months? A year? 3 years?

Dall'Igna is going to bring everything that is good about the Ape to Ducati, though.
Yes, but that will take a season to get figured out. If ever. All the other factories will continue to move forward.
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On the other end of the soap opera, there is the hearing tomorrow for the DP/MM incident.


MM is quoted as saying "I know there is a hearing set for Thursday with Race Direction to discuss the incident with Dani in Aragón, there is not much we can do, we need to wait and see what they say"


Then DP is quoted as ""There is not much we can do, we need to wait and see what they say".


Programmed by the HRC PR folks, I guess.
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:09 AM   #4783
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What technology is more important for a manufacturer to be working on? A large part of why someone like Honda is in motogp is to develop technology ( not that it helped with vfr1200 gas guzzler). As an end user I am happy the manufacturer is challenged with fuel economy if it means the motorcycle or car I drive in 10 years can have high performance with lower fuel usage.
I agree that trickle down technology is great for improving performance in the production lines. What I personally do not like, is anything to do with fuel efficiency in what is supposed to be a racing series, and a prototype racing series at that. To me, they just do not belong together. Not to mention, that to a good extent, peak motor performance and peak fuel efficiency, are contradictory goals.
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:32 AM   #4784
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Gigi to Ducati. He would like Aspar to then run Ducatis with spec software and he would like Nicky as part of that package.

Aspar is considering. They are also talking to HRC and American Honda about running Nicky on a proddy Honda.

I am sure Aprilia still would like to be with Aspar too, but with Dall'Igna gone, nobody will want to stay with Aprilia. Sucks.

My ONLY misgivings about running a Production Honda is, there is no way HRC would stand for a production racer being competitive with their factory machines. I could be wrong, but I don't see it.

The Ducati route means more of the same until Ducati is able to produce a Dall'Igna prototype. And how long could that take? 6 months? A year? 3 years?

Dall'Igna is going to bring everything that is good about the Ape to Ducati, though.


The proddy honda will always be just a bit behind but at larger tracks where it can use more fuel it should be close. The bikes belong to the teams so they can do with them as they please. They have spec software. They dont need Honda there holding their hand.


Aspar should take the honda. I'm sad to see this happening to Aprilia but they are not willing to give Dall"Igna what he wants.
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:43 AM   #4785
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I agree that trickle down technology is great for improving performance in the production lines. What I personally do not like, is anything to do with fuel efficiency in what is supposed to be a racing series, and a prototype racing series at that. To me, they just do not belong together. Not to mention, that to a good extent, peak motor performance and peak fuel efficiency, are contradictory goals.
I think that limiting fuel usage to increase mileage is kind of a red herring. I believe the rule was implemented to bring some parity to the series. Dorna's interest is in competitive, entertaining racing. Parity will help provide that. Nobody cares what kind of fuel mileage race bikes get. That would be a hard sell to a mass audience.
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