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Old 10-23-2013, 07:24 PM   #5086
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I thought they were already using him.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:31 PM   #5087
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:55 PM   #5088
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:16 PM   #5089
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Sorry to jack the caption contest, but I was watching that terrible race last weekend, and I couldn't help but wonder, what is it that those three Spaniards are doing that the rest of the pack can't? I mean, how long did it take for Rossi and Co. to just completely fall back and be a non-factor? Not very long. The whole time, Jorge, Marc, and Dani are just cruising out in front as if the rest of the grid doesn't exist. Why? Maybe it's something intangible, but if we could somehow quantify what they do so much better than everyone else, what would it be?
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:28 PM   #5090
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Sorry to jack the caption contest, but I was watching that terrible race last weekend, and I couldn't help but wonder, what is it that those three Spaniards are doing that the rest of the pack can't? I mean, how long did it take for Rossi and Co. to just completely fall back and be a non-factor? Not very long. The whole time, Jorge, Marc, and Dani are just cruising out in front as if the rest of the grid doesn't exist. Why? Maybe it's something intangible, but if we could somehow quantify what they do so much better than everyone else, what would it be?
-Buckets loads of Talent.
-Coaching and training from pre-formative years.
-Determination.
-Support from national series.
-The best bikes and the once again the talent to use its capabilities.

Realistically :
Rossi (will be amongst them next year as the yamaha takes a step forward)
Bradl
Crutchlow
Hayden

if on equal equipement would also be mixing it up (among others)
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:59 PM   #5091
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-Buckets loads of Talent.
-Coaching and training from pre-formative years.
-Determination.
-Support from national series.
-The best bikes and the once again the talent to use its capabilities.

Realistically :
Rossi (will be amongst them next year as the yamaha takes a step forward)
Bradl
Crutchlow
Hayden

if on equal equipement would also be mixing it up (among others)
Hmm...

Determination: It would be tough to prove somehow that they have more than the other guys.

Coaching and training from pre-formative years: Aren't all these pros kind of in that same boat here, or is there something different about Spanish training?... which brings us to...

Support from national series: Is Spain just better set up to breed MotoGP riders than other countries, and if so, how? (This is an interesting one for me.)

Bikes: Aren't Rossi and Lorenzo on the same bike, basically (M1)?

Thanks for the insights.

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Old 10-23-2013, 11:27 PM   #5092
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Rossi (will be amongst them next year as the yamaha takes a step forward)

JLo has proven, that the M1 can be a front runner, even though Honda clearly have the edge this year.Looks like it is Rossi, who needs to take that step forward, if he can. Top-3 Spaniards have been head and shoulders above the rest all year (first race at Qatar was the only exception, otherwise Rossi has only visited the podium, when one of the top Spaniards has been out). Must be painful for Rossi to see his team-mate go fast on the same bike. Yeah, there΄s probably something in JLo΄s style that very much suits the current M1. But that΄s what they are paid to do – to get the most out of their equipment. Rossi is way behind his team-mate.

Rossi has some small glimmers of hope though, as he has slowly been able to shrink the gap to the top-3. But it΄s still been several tenths a lap in most races. Those last tenths are always the hardest to get. Interesting to see, if he can actually close that gap or not. And next year the Spaniards could again move the goalposts.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:32 AM   #5093
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Lorenzo has never complained about brakes in previous years because his style of carrying higher corner speeds did not require this, ie he was able to beat the Honda's as he was, now he has reached his limit and admitted even if he rides a perfect race on the M1 he will/may lose out to the HRC boys.

Lorenzo knows he must adapt a riding style/strategy which counters the Honda's superb stable braking and superior acceleration. (Which also happens to suit Rossi to a tee). I am not saying Rossi shouldnt step up his game, clearly he should his teammate is ahead of him but if Yamaha improves braking and acceleration i.e. build a weapon which can battle then i think the Yamaha boys will have a chance.

If Marquez can continually catch up and break Lorenzo's rithym then he cannot use his superior cornerspeed. Then he needs a point and squirt bike to be able to battle (of which we know he is absolutely capable of).

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Old 10-24-2013, 01:46 AM   #5094
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Has VR actually beaten JL in a race even once this year, when both have been fully fit?? I don't think he has. That must be very worrying for Rossi.

(and at Motegi & Valencia VR probably should not get ahead of JL even if he could, unless he can also beat the Repsol boys).
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:59 AM   #5095
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Warning: contains Casey Stoner.

Very, very interesting interview with Stoner on all sorts of things...

Includes this denial: 'People are really still expecting me to come back. I think they think I'm having a sabbatical and I'll be back next year, but that couldn't be further from the truth".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-2...ennedy/5040210
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:23 AM   #5096
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An interesting and candid interview, you can only admire a bloke who passes up 15 million because he has lost the passion of top class racing. How many of us mere mortals would?
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:02 AM   #5097
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Eugene Laverty turned down an offer from Ducati to ride a GP 13 with 24 litres of fuel and spec electronics on the Pramac Team.

Aside from that offer of a turd sandwich, apparently the $$$ offered wasn't all that great either.

GP One is also reporting rumors that Ben Spies will retire due to his shoulder injuries.

They also take shots at his mom, so no telling if there is any truth.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:46 AM   #5098
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:57 AM   #5099
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Yeah, in the race thread a bunch. Got screen capped from the MotoGP feed right after they aired it.

They told him it was no good after ten laps...
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:00 AM   #5100
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Eugene Laverty turned down an offer from Ducati to ride a GP 13 with 24 litres of fuel and spec electronics on the Pramac Team.

Aside from that offer of a turd sandwich, apparently the $$$ offered wasn't all that great either.

GP One is also reporting rumors that Ben Spies will retire due to his shoulder injuries.

They also take shots at his mom, so no telling if there is any truth.
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