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Old 07-29-2011, 01:23 PM   #1
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Ford Truck Suspension Experts?

Any ford suspension experts out there?

I have a 2000 E350 Van, 7.3 diesel, 2wd, that I'm wanting to do a mild lift on; maybe 2" lift. There are aftermarket "kits" out there for 6" lifts, but I don't want to go that extreme; just want enough to run a little beefier tires and give it a nice look.

I've been told, by someone that supposedly did it, that F450 front springs and different camber bushings, gave him 2" of lift on his E350. I tried to get more details from the guy, but he seems to have disappeared. Trying to figure out what year F450 springs would be longer but the same diameter as the E350 springs, or if F450 spacer "lift" blocks would fit my E350.

The rear will be easy; lot's of different sizes of lift blocks available.

Thanks for any info.
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:53 PM   #2
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Don't use lift blocks on the rear. An add-a-leaf would be a better choice although stiffer than the stock springs.

I may be wrong but I thought the e350 was using mostly f250 suspension. So finding a lift for an F250 might be the easiest way to go.
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Old 07-29-2011, 04:33 PM   #3
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Don't use lift blocks on the rear. An add-a-leaf would be a better choice although stiffer than the stock springs.

I may be wrong but I thought the e350 was using mostly f250 suspension. So finding a lift for an F250 might be the easiest way to go.
What's the problem with lift blocks? If I get good quality blocks, I thought that would work fine. I don't want it stiffer; it's plenty stiff enough as is.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:37 PM   #4
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What's the problem with lift blocks? If I get good quality blocks, I thought that would work fine. I don't want it stiffer; it's plenty stiff enough as is.
Blocks could allow the axle to twist. Springs should do the trick. You may be able to get springs that maintain factory ride.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:08 PM   #5
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I got three inches on the back of a jeep cherokee using the main leaf out of a GM pickup with the eyes cut off. Cost me a bit of time and new center bolts for the springs (less than a buck for 2 of them). have a bunch of good c-clamps around to squeeze the pack together if you choose this route.
The front will be more effort, If it has torsion bars, you may be able to crank them up, if it has coils you could build or buy a spacer.
I tried 2" blocks at first and the spring wrap would leave me bouncing around under hard acceleration and that was with the gutless 4.0.
adding a leaf will not hurt the ride quality as much as you might think. I currently have a custom heavy spring pack in the back of a dakota and it handles much better than stock.
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I thought that the suspension on the vans and trucks was the same. You may wanna double check me, but I'd bet you can order a pre-runner kit for an F250/350 and it *should* work.

Get a locker for the rear if you're going this route.

Talk to these guys too. I was digging around on their site. They seem to know vans. Worst case, they don't know nuthin, but do know someone that does.

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Old 07-29-2011, 08:41 PM   #7
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The issue for the vans is the I-beam suspension. If you lift it more that 1 5/8" or so you run out of camber adjustment. I decided to just get a bit stiffer/taller spring from SuperSprings, to be installed soon. I just want enough to get 265s under it without rubbing too badly.
Lift kits usually include different control arms to deal with the camber issue, and it seems the most popular lift is 4", so that's the shortest anyone builds. I think Camburg offers more, if you're so inclined.
And no, the pickup stuff doesn't work.
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I thought that the suspension on the vans and trucks was the same. You may wanna double check me, but I'd bet you can order a pre-runner kit for an F250/350 and it *should* work.

Get a locker for the rear if you're going this route.

Talk to these guys too. I was digging around on their site. They seem to know vans. Worst case, they don't know nuthin, but do know someone that does.

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There are a couple of companies that make pre-runner kit's for vans, but they are 6" front, 3 inch rear lifts; a little more extreme than I want to go.

I've already spoken with Ujoint; he doesn't really know exactly which front springs would work. He usually works with 4x4's.
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The issue for the vans is the I-beam suspension. If you lift it more that 1 5/8" or so you run out of camber adjustment. I decided to just get a bit stiffer/taller spring from SuperSprings, to be installed soon. I just want enough to get 265s under it without rubbing too badly.
Lift kits usually include different control arms to deal with the camber issue, and it seems the most popular lift is 4", so that's the shortest anyone builds. I think Camburg offers more, if you're so inclined.
And no, the pickup stuff doesn't work.
I believe Moog makes a camber bushing that would work; or at least I've been told that it will work with a 2 inch lift. One guy I've spoken with claims 2" with F450 front springs and Moog 3 degree camber bushing, no alignment problems.

Where have you seen 4" lifts? All I'm seeing is 6"
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Old 07-30-2011, 05:43 AM   #10
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Well there ya go. I was wrong on both counts.

Sorry mang!

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Well there ya go. I was wrong on both counts.

Sorry mang!

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This is a camburg (I believe) 6" kit. A bit much for what I'm looking for:

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Old 07-30-2011, 06:08 AM   #12
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Tami would need a step ladder to get in that thing! No wonder you don't want it!



Thought about a body lift instead?

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Yep. 6"

Everyone wants monster trucks, I guess.

edit: Hmmmmm just saw their 4 1/2 " system...
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Seems like the website states "4 1/2 to 6" Increased ride height" and when I spoke with the dude in person he said 4" is the smallest he can go.

I hadn't heard about the Moog bushing thingie, but I'll be investigating, for sure.

And no, no monster truck for me either. A bit more tire, a Tru-Trac diff and I'm good, thanks.
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