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Old 04-09-2013, 07:08 PM   #316
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19" or 21" front wheel.
Depends on your adventure! Since mine will be on two lane country roads, I will prefer the 19" front wheel. And for the times I have to take a gravel road, this bike will be 100% better than my shadow.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:41 PM   #317
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19" or 21" front wheel.
Alright now we are getting somewhere. Ok better steering on loose surface. Should absorb bumps more. I guess I've never really thought about this. I've always rode a dirt bike off-road and never a street bike off-road. How dramatic a difference does the tire size make? By the way I'm not trying do anything here but decide if the CB 500X is the next logical step for my needs. I've always had Honda's, but I don't want to be brand myopic. Any information is greatly appreciated. Seat hieght is pretty important to me also, I am 5'6 and my wife if 5'5. The seat on 230L is perfect for both of us.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:54 PM   #318
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Depends on your adventure! Since mine will be on two lane country roads, I will prefer the 19" front wheel.
CB500X has 17 inch wheels.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:21 AM   #319
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My KLX has 17" wheels all around. While not may not be optimal on some dirt, its certainly doable and not too bad
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:39 AM   #320
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considering a lot of people, me included, will be buying this bike for 95% commuting on asphalt, and 5% gravel roads, i feel like it should suit me perfectly.

that being said, yes, i will end up pushing the limits of its' off-road-ability i'm sure. just like the NC700x is "adventure syled" but that does reasonably well off road.

i have taken my SV down gravel roads, and although i didn't like it, it certainly did it ok. i just don't want to subject my SV to that so like i said before, it's staying a weekend bike and dumping its commuter duties to the CB.

also, i like the "adventure style" for the more up-right seating position as well along with the wind protection. this bike will certainly allow me to take as many adventures as i think i'd like to. like it has been said before, not everyone needs a bike that can do Dakar or tour the alps. a KLR would be hugely overkill for myself.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:52 AM   #321
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uh oh... i may "Wee" out.. Just found a deal on a DL that i may not be able to pass up..
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:42 PM   #322
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This has all been said before.

Any bike can be used for adventure riding, but the term "adventure bike" really does have some meaning in terms of design intentions and performance.

If we are talking about the bike and not the application:
  • Start with chassis geometry: Relaxed rake, generous trail and long wheel base are required for better off-road handling.
  • Wheels: At least a 19" front (19/17, 19/18, 21/18).
  • Suspension: At least 7.5" travel front and rear, preferably 8.5" plus.
  • Gound clearance: At least 7.5" (hence, tough for shorter riders).
  • Range: at least 225 miles, preferably 250 plus.
  • Rear subframe: can handle at least 60 lbs., preferably 90+.
  • Seat: compromise of long range comfort, but narrow enough to stand comfortably; pillion optional on larger displacement bikes.
  • Ergos: Bar / Seat / Peg geometry for both standing and sitting.
  • Durable: mid-to-high exhaust, ability to mount a stout skid plate and crash bars.
  • Weight: Adventure bikes are usually heavier than Dual Sports because their emphasis is usually longer range traveling.
Modifications can get lots of bikes to this envelope, but it all costs money. It is easier to start closer to the final objective, so spec out your own compromise and go for it.

In my opinion, based on the design envelope described above, the CB500X is a full-on street bike, with an "Adventure Look", just like Honda marketing says. It meets almost none of the requirements for an Adventure bike, starting with chassis geometry. However, I expect it to sell very well, and if you want one, go for it! What matters is that you are happy with your choice.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:38 PM   #323
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Really great info Gryphon12. Alright so this is where I personally think I am with this bike. First I need to see it in front of me. Second more stats are needed; fuel economy, weight capacity, and aftermarket upgrades. For me it might still be ok, assuming I ride 85% street, 10% gravel road, and 5% actual off-road. I think "so spec out your own compromise" really states the case. If I bought it, and liked it enough to spend money on farkles then so be it. I've spent tons of money on my 230L and it is no where as good as a 250L, but my feet can reach the ground.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:33 PM   #324
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Great post, Gryphon12.

When I look at this bike, I see it through a filter of adding 19/17 spoked wheels, CNC triple clamps with longer USD forks, a longer high performance shock, and a modified exhaust and fuel mapping. That gets me excited, but I'm not sure how smart it is.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:47 PM   #325
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Great post, Gryphon12.

When I look at this bike, I see it through a filter of adding 19/17 spoked wheels, CNC triple clamps with longer USD forks, a longer high performance shock, and a modified exhaust and fuel mapping. That gets me excited, but I'm not sure how smart it is.
Im all for moding a bike to improve it....but to try and make it into something it is not
Designed for.....why dont you buy a bike that has all that from the start....6000+ for the bike and 2000 for parts still wont
Make it into what you want....just sayin

Husky Strada 650 for example....
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:17 PM   #326
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So I am also excited about this bike, but for a reason I haven't noticed anyone else mention it, I'm SHORT.
5'8" with a 29" inseam here. My height is the number one reason I'm seriously considering this bike.

I actually think the V-Strom 650 is better bang for your buck, but I straddled it, and it felt waaaay too big. Both tall and top-heavy.

Sat on a CB500R at dealer tonight. Just barely able to flat foot it, and didn't feel top-heavy at all

So I'm thinking the CB500X should work fine (only a 1" higher seat), and a few pounds more gas in the tank.

Can't wait
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:14 AM   #327
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adding 19/17 spoked wheels, CNC triple clamps with longer USD forks, a longer high performance shock, and a modified exhaust and fuel mapping. That gets me excited, but I'm not sure how smart it is.
Dunno about smart, but cheap it ain´t.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:36 AM   #328
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uh oh... i may "Wee" out.. Just found a deal on a DL that i may not be able to pass up..
well that didn't pan out like i thought it would...
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:17 AM   #329
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well that didn't pan out like i thought it would...
I have heard nothing but very good reports on the wee, but after sitting on one it just didn't do a thing for me, I almost called about a used one that looked like a good deal, but if I didn't like the 2013, I'm sure I wouldn't like a 2005.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/mcy/3690172892.html
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:07 AM   #330
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yeah. this was a 2012 for 7.. with 0 miles.. but it's not "new" it has to be registered as "used" so financing is 8%.. :( and it "did it" for me.. i may still go snag it..


otherwise, i'll be waiting till end of may for my X.
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