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Old 11-12-2012, 05:25 PM   #1
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1150GS parked 3 years, won't start. Help

I put a new Odyssey battery in that is fully charged. I siphoned out as much gas as I could and put a gallon of fresh gas in the tank. I changed engine and trans oil (I'll worry about final drive once it starts).

I put in new autolite plugs.

I get a spark from the plug wire when I ground it to the frame with a screwdriver.

So I assume that my problem is fuel. I detached what I believe to be the fuel injectors from the intake tubes and pushed the starter button and I don't get any noticeable liquid jetting out of the 4 little holes. But I'm not sure if I should. I do get fuel from the tank at the quick disconnects, and I can here the fuel pump doing its thing when I turn the key on.

The starter just goes round and round and nothing ever fires. It doesn't almost fire and fail. It just doesn't fire. So I think I'm not getting fuel all the way to the injectors.

So how do I diagnose where the problem is and how do I clean things up so that fuel gets through. I'm just looking to get it functional enough to sell the bike. You take a big hit if you try to sell a bike that won't start, but I'm not hiding the fact that it has sat idle for 3 years and I'm recommending that any purchaser take it straight in for service, so I just need to do enough to get the engine to fire up.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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Fuel filter?
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:31 PM   #3
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It has not run at ALL for 3 years? something that meters the fuel into the engine is gummed up. that is my final answer.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:31 PM   #4
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Fuel filter?
Was changed immediately before the bike was parked for 3 years. I doubt it has had 10 gallons of gas go through it. Also, if the fuel filter were clogged, I wouldn't see gas at the quick disconnects, I think.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:33 PM   #5
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It has not run at ALL for 3 years? something that meters the fuel into the engine is gummed up. that is my final answer.
Yes, I get that. But what? How do I go about diagnosing it and fixing it? I'll forgo the diagnosis if there's a way to just pull all the likely parts and clean them somehow.

And no, it really hasn't moved at all in 3 years. It's possible that I started it a few times in the first year that it was parked, but once the battery died, it sat completely untouched.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:40 PM   #6
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Yes, I get that. But what? How do I go about diagnosing it and fixing it? I'll forgo the diagnosis if there's a way to just pull all the likely parts and clean them somehow.

And no, it really hasn't moved at all in 3 years. It's possible that I started it a few times in the first year that it was parked, but once the battery died, it sat completely untouched.
i said that because I don't know if it was carbed or FI. I looked it up and it is FI. So I am going to defer to someone that knows FI and injectors. If it was a carb, take it apart and clean it....but FI? Thats like magic to me!
On second thought, if you can get to the air filter and drop a few squirts of gasoline in to the throttle bodies, hit the starter and if it kicks over? you have clogged injectors.

on third thought....how come you haven't stated it in 3 years?! (I say that knowing my XRL is also gummed up...) hey, i have a Gold wing now!
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:47 PM   #7
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Injector cleaning

http://f650cs.wikidot.com/fuel-injector-cleaning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aT4S1lIBAY

That's good that you have spark. Do you hear the fuel pump running? When you say fuel from the quick disconnects are you referring to a drop or two?
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:55 PM   #8
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have you removed the air cleaner to determine if there might be a nest in that box ,
possibly plugging the cylinders
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:15 PM   #9
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http://f650cs.wikidot.com/fuel-injector-cleaning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aT4S1lIBAY

That's good that you have spark. Do you hear the fuel pump running? When you say fuel from the quick disconnects are you referring to a drop or two?
yes - when I separate the quick disconnects after powering it up (and hearing the fuel pump), I get a drop or two of fuel.

I'll try cleaning the fuel injectors. That seems a likely candidate.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:28 PM   #10
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Fuel pump check

If your QD are installed with worm type clamps you could remove the male from the return and install it in the female QD on the supply side and run the pump just to confirm. Or you could cut off the irreversible clamp and do the same. That would also get any remaining old gas out of the tank.

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Old 11-12-2012, 06:45 PM   #11
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Fuel pump impeller could be seized...
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:13 PM   #12
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #13
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It will turn over and not start with the side stand down.

Do you have it on the center stand with the side stand up?
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:26 AM   #14
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Would he have a spark with the side stand down?
Do you get a spark with the safety switch shutoff on the handlebars?
Just wondering.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:39 AM   #15
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It will turn over and not start with the side stand down.

Do you have it on the center stand with the side stand up?
He has spark
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