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Old 11-16-2012, 03:46 AM   #16
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Must be winter in the NT, heading south .

Never know Jack might be in your area too depending on weather, never know which way you have to go.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:51 AM   #17
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As others have said it will be bloody hot.... and usually wet enough to stop traffic. If it is unseasonably dry.... might be a goer. Take lots of water, a sat phone and let everybody know where you are and where you intend to be.

Already had a death from thirst near Birdsville only a couple of weeks ago.

The bloke that died had no water and left his vehicle, that is planning for trouble. Rule 1 lots of water, rule 2 stay with vehicle especially when someone knows wher you are.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:22 AM   #18
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Looking forward to the ride report.

You will need some of these and a lot of water.
Looks interesting. Think I will give it a try.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:08 PM   #19
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How long will it take to get from Sydney to Birdsville - based on my mapping tool it can be done in three days - but don't know how reliable this is. Day 1 is Sydney to Bourke, Day 2 Bourke to Quilpie and Day 3 Quilpie to Birdsville.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:44 PM   #20
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The Sydney to Bourke day is doable easily if you don't stop to look at much, the other two days look fairly relaxed.

I did Townsville to Winton, Birdsville Longreach Townsville on a KLX250 one easter (4 days), that was my first decent run on a bike.

I did it at a fairly relaxed pace (the bike was still restricted so I had a 100kph max on flat road, and dropped to 90 at the first sign of a hill), but I don't stop and look at much.

Edit, this is my ride report from the trip,http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249285

I don't think I had spell check when I wrote it, and my grammar is pretty atrocious, oh and the pics are crap because the camera shit itself but you might find something useful in it...
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:27 AM   #21
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I have seen some crazy plans on this website but this one takes the cake

Seriously if you need to ask the questions that you are asking you should reconsider and put your planned trip off for several months. There is a reason why the outback tourist season is when it is Simple. To stop people from dying in the heat. Also to stop people from being stranded due to wet weather and flooded roads.

To prepare Go down to your local bakery/foundry/ brick works somewhere where it very hot get fully kitted up and run around for a few hours then see how much water you need to survive also take the pillion as planned get her to do the same. Change a few tyres when the heat is up over 45 degrees and pick up your beemer a few times(or even more if you intend to go out to the real sandhills to near Big Red) . that will give you some idea.

RE “but better to go when you can, rather than stay at home and wish you did!” That idea might work closer to the coast however in the heat of the western part of our country in January, well it can lead to tragedies
You have to work with nature not make it work with your leave dates.

Even you plan from Cairns can be interfered with re flooded roads etc.

In closing remember that a uhf , sat phone epirb, spot tracker etc is all well and good but they can’t make help materialise instantly when you are a very long way from help.

Outback travel in January should be made as a necessity not just for fun

In a nutshell don’t go in January, go later in the year then have a great trip
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:45 AM   #22
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How long will it take to get from Sydney to Birdsville - based on my mapping tool it can be done in three days - but don't know how reliable this is. Day 1 is Sydney to Bourke, Day 2 Bourke to Quilpie and Day 3 Quilpie to Birdsville.

I would doubt you could do Quilpie to Birdsville in one day.... safely. Windorah to Birdsville took us 7 hours in May. My experience with outback travel on bike is that it always takes longer than you think it will.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:00 PM   #23
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I lived at Julia Creek for awhile and everything that has been said is quite true.

January is bloody hot!!!! January can be be bloody wet!!!!

Wet/damp black soil stops everything and there is a lot of it.

People still live and work out there in January. it is not a great void. They will get pissed off if they have to come and rescue your sorry butt.


If you have not been out that way before, listen to the people you met and talk with. They will advise you. Don't ride in the heat of the day, ride early and later. Don't ride at dusk and don't ride into the glare of the sun, you can not see sheep that are the same colour as the dirt.

Even the locals die if they do not follow the standard survival strategies.
Be very careful, ride safe, turn around if you need to don't push on regardless just for the sake of completing the journey.

Part of the adventure is the danger otherwise we would not ride bikes. BUT DON'T BE STUPID and push the limits. The trick here is to know the limit. Research all the four wheel drive sites for desert survival. Remember they have a vehicle to sit in and stay dry in.

You have opened a can of worms here on a public site. You will and have got every possible range of advice, the problem is it is all relevant but the decision is yours. Are you prepared?

I would go but that is me, others won't and that is sound advice also.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:51 PM   #24
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Starky14 we are on the same channel.

There is adventure, calculated risk and well perhaps a very much unwanted result.

Lines on maps are just that, to quote Slim Dusty.

"To my wife also, I leave a map of Australia, so she can discover
it really does take a day or two to cross two inches
of the Northern Territory, because this is a bloody big country".

I am afraid that Garmin/Magellan/Lowrance/Hema or who ever cant factor in all the hurdles that you would be up against

In the right conditons is good fun and adventure. Pick the wrong time well its been said before.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:09 PM   #25
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Thanks guys - looks like I will have to make sure we stay hydrated. I am not too keen on bitumen either, but need to finish in 20 days. For some reason I have to visit Birdsville - need to go and see Big Red - not sure why. Perhaps because I have not been in the outback yet. Would like to see what it's really like.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:50 PM   #26
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Not one mention of sandflies, what haven't you lot had an outback expierance after the channels flood. It drives the Roo's that crazy they scratch themselves to death , so pack some Bushman.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:56 PM   #27
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Not one mention of sandflies, what haven't you lot had an outback expierance after the channels flood. It drives the Roo's that crazy they scratch themselves to death , so pack some Bushman.

Good advice Jack but it has to be Bushmans cause the little buggers just thrive on aerogard etc
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Bugs

OK, Sandflies (Or scrub midges never can tell the difference), Flies, and Gidgee Bugs. I don't remember if aeroguard works on Gidgee Bugs? Fly screens struggle with the little buggers, that I do remember.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #29
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OK, Sandflies (Or scrub midges never can tell the difference), Flies, and Gidgee Bugs. I don't remember if aeroguard works on Gidgee Bugs? Fly screens struggle with the little buggers, that I do remember.
There's a few more critters along the way, this is what one could find on a ride from Winton to Richmond.

The sign says beware of Dinosaurs Then i realized i was on a DR.



The usual hoppers were around.



With the odd Camel



And stubborn cattle



Then the attack started, first from the big Cats.



Then from the clouds a flock of killer budgies



Then things really got interesting, the smell of burning hoppers on your exhaust pipe and splattered visor makes the wide brown land more appealing.



Thankfully i made it to town just in time to see the Friday night ferals at the Federal Hotel

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Yep, well done Jack, I think that about sums them up.

Remember wedged tail eagles take a hell of a long time to get airborne, so give them a wide berth as well. Wifey took one out with the windscreen of the Pardo outside Longreach. I still get a bit of milage out of that mishap of hers. It is my job not to let her forget that one.

Hoppers hurt like being hit by a stick.
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