ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Old's Cool
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-05-2013, 11:36 AM   #271
woodly1069
Beastly Adventurer
 
woodly1069's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY...really too far from the hills!
Oddometer: 1,620
yo Kev, I just found it, are you a member of the Yahoo loopframe forum? I found it in the files part of the site. I'll PM you.
Tim
__________________
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem!
woodly1069 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 12:41 PM   #272
danedg
Horizontally Opposed
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: U-puku-ipi-sing
Oddometer: 6,193
The green wire and lamp are supplied 12v by a black wire coming from terminal 85 off the starter relay. The neutral switch lifts the ground.
__________________
54 R51/3, 65 R60/2,
68 R60US, 74 MG Eldorado,
95 R100 Mystic
danedg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 12:51 PM   #273
korbitkid
n00b
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Oddometer: 1
Had a '75

Had a '75 850ST (?) and loved it. Rode all over Midwest and South and to California and back without a problem -- and that was in the 70s!
korbitkid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 01:28 PM   #274
danedg
Horizontally Opposed
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: U-puku-ipi-sing
Oddometer: 6,193
Generator problem

Did you have the genny out and the battery discoed?

You might want to re-polarize the generator. Take a stiff piece of wire and briefly touch it between Terminal 61 and D+ on the voltage regulator. It will spark. Yes everything is hooked up when you do it.
__________________
54 R51/3, 65 R60/2,
68 R60US, 74 MG Eldorado,
95 R100 Mystic
danedg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 01:32 PM   #275
England-Kev OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track!
Oddometer: 3,385
Quote:
Originally Posted by danedg View Post
The green wire and lamp are supplied 12v by a black wire coming from terminal 85 off the starter relay. The neutral switch lifts the ground.
Where is this black wire connected to? as I only have one wire at the lamp, and one wire at the switch?
England-Kev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 01:34 PM   #276
England-Kev OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track!
Oddometer: 3,385
Quote:
Originally Posted by danedg View Post
Did you have the genny out and the battery discoed?

You might want to re-polarize the generator. Take a stiff piece of wire and briefly touch it between Terminal 61 and D+ on the voltage regulator. It will spark. Yes everything is hooked up when you do it.
would this cause the gen light to dysfunction?
England-Kev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 01:50 PM   #277
danedg
Horizontally Opposed
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: U-puku-ipi-sing
Oddometer: 6,193
Quote:
Originally Posted by England-Kev View Post
would this cause the gen light to dysfunction?
I don't know and I'm not sure.

I want to say in the headlight bucket.
The repole is super easy and quick, it might just solve the problem. It won't hurt anything if that's not it.
__________________
54 R51/3, 65 R60/2,
68 R60US, 74 MG Eldorado,
95 R100 Mystic
danedg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 03:00 PM   #278
MZRider
Neo-Luddite
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Western MD
Oddometer: 616
The red wire for the generator warning light and the green wire for the neutral indicator are both grounds. So is the grey for the oil pressure warning light. The bulb holders are supplied with power via a white wire w/black tracer. All of the bulb holders should have two terminals except the one for the "lights"/high beam indicator.



http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/m...nstrument_dash

http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/f...trument_dashes
__________________
Charlie
http://www.AntietamClassicCycle.com
'69 Guzzi Ambassador,'77 Yamaha XT500,
'88 Ducati Paso, '91 ATK 604
'94 MZ Silver Star, '96 CCM 350
MZRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 10:54 AM   #279
England-Kev OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track!
Oddometer: 3,385
Quote:
Originally Posted by MZRider View Post
All of the bulb holders should have two terminals
thanks Charlie, that is the problem, my bulb holders are all single pole only? I have found some on ebay, so they should be here Monday...

England-Kev screwed with this post 06-06-2013 at 11:45 AM
England-Kev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 01:20 PM   #280
MZRider
Neo-Luddite
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Western MD
Oddometer: 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by England-Kev View Post
thanks Charlie, that is the problem, my bulb holders are all single pole only? I have found some on ebay, so they should be here Monday...
I won't say that's the only problem, who knows how the bike is wired. Could be someone got "creative".
__________________
Charlie
http://www.AntietamClassicCycle.com
'69 Guzzi Ambassador,'77 Yamaha XT500,
'88 Ducati Paso, '91 ATK 604
'94 MZ Silver Star, '96 CCM 350
MZRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 01:40 PM   #281
England-Kev OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track!
Oddometer: 3,385
Quote:
Originally Posted by MZRider View Post
I won't say that's the only problem, who knows how the bike is wired. Could be someone got "creative".
I have done a test with the holders removed, and have all the correct lights working as they should be. So as soon as the new holders arrive I shall get to wiring them in. I have gone over the wiring, and tided up a lot of the connections. I need to get some miles on the thing this weekend.
England-Kev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 02:11 PM   #282
danedg
Horizontally Opposed
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: U-puku-ipi-sing
Oddometer: 6,193
How many colors?

When I opened up the dash and bucket, I hadn't seen that many colors since the 60's!

An Eldorado US Police bike for Civilian use...

I think the wiring is there for the 4way flasher setup and then ANOTHER setup got tagged in for the rear bags...

The only thing that made sense was to sit with a multimeter and start tracing the basic harness that didn't match up to any of the wiring diagrams. I musta pulled a pound of extra copper outta there that went nowhere...

I don't mean to mislead you on a strange harness 2000 miles away.

Continuity and Ground.
__________________
54 R51/3, 65 R60/2,
68 R60US, 74 MG Eldorado,
95 R100 Mystic
danedg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2013, 12:37 AM   #283
zzzak
Studly Adventurer
 
zzzak's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Sydney,Australia
Oddometer: 698
I am enjoying this thread,thought that you guys might enjoy this.
zzzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2013, 06:34 AM   #284
MZRider
Neo-Luddite
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Western MD
Oddometer: 616
Few and far between are Guzzis that haven't had their wiring harnesses hacked. Some of them can be salvaged, but many just need wholesale replacement. Fortunately, Mr. Greg Bender is making excellent quality harnesses for a bunch of Guzzis now. http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/f...ng_harness.htm
__________________
Charlie
http://www.AntietamClassicCycle.com
'69 Guzzi Ambassador,'77 Yamaha XT500,
'88 Ducati Paso, '91 ATK 604
'94 MZ Silver Star, '96 CCM 350
MZRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 04:51 AM   #285
England-Kev OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track!
Oddometer: 3,385
Ying and Yang..


So it has been a good news/bad news kind of day.
So where shall I start, the good news I guess! After getting a late start today, I dragged the Ambo out of the dark confines of the lock-up, A little choke, a little fuel, and we were away, the bike was running better than it ever has, so all my work seems to have paid off, with no small thanks to you guys sure I still have a clutch issue, but even that seems to be getting a little better. But overall the bike was so much smoother, and with loads of torque, and quicker acceleration.
So I had a quick tour around the local town roads, and grabbed a coffee, No oil leaks I mean it, not one, not a drop under the bike, nothing from the breather hose, nothing from the distributor, no oil leaks total Wow! how did that happen.
So after the coffee, I once again started the old thing up, and headed towards home, but again it felt a bit off? so once home I attached the vacuum gauges, and sure enough, something was amiss, but no amount of playing could get the balance back also there was a horrid little rattle going on. So I checked all over the bike, and sure enough, I had a problem, the exhaust lock ring had come loose again, but this time it had taken the last of the threads from the right hand head with it, nothing I could do would fix it this time. So it is time for a new head, or try to get this one repaired.

One step forward, one step back.


England-Kev is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 09:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014