Just Goosing Around... First steps into Guzzi land... - Page 9

England-Kev · 01-15-2013, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Farmer

That wasn't Joes work that was the handy work of the bikes previous owner. It was the most dangerous bike I've ever ridden. Chipped 1100 fuel injected engine with the standard eldo rear bevel drive. The front brake was a single leading shoe

Accelerated like shit off a stick.

Which goes to prove... Just because you can, don't mean you should!

England-Kev · 01-16-2013, 09:45 AM

Piston + Barrel upgrade...

You guys who have done the upgrade to new Gilardoni Barrel sets, I wonder, did you feel the need to change the big end bearings at the same time? Also, is there any way of telling if your bike has already had the cylinders changed to Gilardoni?

woodly1069 · 01-16-2013, 10:05 AM

England-Kev, I had a few photos provided by another inmate but I can't seem to find them right now, sorry. If you have Gilardoni jugs on your bike you should see the name in the casting at the bottom of the jug where it meets the case. Or you could use the old magnet trick by removing the spark plug and running the piston down out of the way...

F_Sahms · 01-16-2013, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by England-Kev

Piston + Barrel upgrade...

You guys who have done the upgrade to new Gilardoni Barrel sets, I wonder, did you feel the need to change the big end bearings at the same time? Also, is there any way of telling if your bike has already had the cylinders changed to Gilardoni?

If you still have the motor in the frame, you can check the rods for play and make a decision. If the bike has high miles, it might be worthwhile to pull it down and clean the sludge trap in the crank pin, but that takes more disassembly.

You can change the rod shells in situ. Kinda hard to check the pin for roundness tho.

danedg · 01-16-2013, 10:19 AM

I changed the front and rear carriers because they needed to be changed. The front cam retainer as well.
At 46,000 miles, the front and rear bearings measured JUST within specification. It didn't seem wise to reuse them if I plan on riding the thing 10,000 miles / year....which is exactly what I intend to do!
All the bearings were still usable (sizewise), but they were dirty. You can see what the lack of an oil filter will do to the bearing surfaces. On the other hand, the cam and crank were in fine shape.
So the bearings did their job. Nothing failed and I probably could have thrown a battery in it and ridden it for another 20,000 But they were due for retirement.

nick949eldo · 01-16-2013, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by England-Kev

Piston + Barrel upgrade...

You guys who have done the upgrade to new Gilardoni Barrel sets, I wonder, did you feel the need to change the big end bearings at the same time? Also, is there any way of telling if your bike has already had the cylinders changed to Gilardoni?

Here you go Kev. If they are Gilardoni they are stamped right at the base of the cylinder between the lower two fins. The easiest way to check if you have iron bores is the put a stick magnet down the plug hole. If it sticks like crazy: iron sleeves. Barely at all: nikisil. Not at all: chrome.

Nick

danedg · 01-16-2013, 03:12 PM

England-Kev · 01-18-2013, 06:48 AM

Thanks, I am sure I would have noticed that if I had them.... not much going on here right now, we have 3" of snow, which is enough to bring the UK to a grinding halt, it surprises me that we ever conquered half the world, we have trouble these days getting to the end of the road!

On top of that, my Dad passed away on monday, so my mind has been diverted away from motorcycles a little..

Roll on spring....

woodly1069 · 01-18-2013, 07:37 AM

Damn Kev, sorry to hear the bad news about your dad...

danedg · 01-18-2013, 04:45 PM

Peace brother...
It's a hard step...

Rob Farmer · 01-19-2013, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by England-Kev

it surprises me that we ever conquered half the world, we have trouble these days getting to the end of the road!

History shows we mainly conquered the countries without any snow

England-Kev · 01-19-2013, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Farmer

History shows we mainly conquered the countries without any snow

I suppose Canada was just an accident then Rob, they must have gone in the summer

my year really starts next weekend, Kempton on saturday, and the Talmag pre 65 trial on Sunday

Rob Farmer · 01-19-2013, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by England-Kev

I suppose Canada was just an accident then Rob, they must have gone in the summer

my year really starts next weekend, Kempton on saturday, and the Talmag pre 65 trial on Sunday

I avoided mentioning Canada...You know how sensitive the colonials are

Glad you're getting out and about. see you soon hopefully.

England-Kev · 01-19-2013, 04:07 AM

I just came across a picture I took at Horseshoe pass....

woodly1069 · 01-22-2013, 12:53 PM

Dang! Sure do love an Eldorado in black!

01-16-2013, 09:45 AM	#122
England-Kev ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track! Oddometer: 2,630	Piston + Barrel upgrade... You guys who have done the upgrade to new Gilardoni Barrel sets, I wonder, did you feel the need to change the big end bearings at the same time? Also, is there any way of telling if your bike has already had the cylinders changed to Gilardoni? __________________ http://kevindean.zenfolio.com/ http://motodelcurva.wordpress.com/ http://backstreetthunder.wordpress.com

01-16-2013, 10:05 AM	#123
woodly1069 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Louisville, KY...really too far from the hills! Oddometer: 1,155	England-Kev, I had a few photos provided by another inmate but I can't seem to find them right now, sorry. If you have Gilardoni jugs on your bike you should see the name in the casting at the bottom of the jug where it meets the case. Or you could use the old magnet trick by removing the spark plug and running the piston down out of the way... __________________ If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem!

01-16-2013, 10:19 AM	#125
danedg Horizontally Opposed Joined: May 2008 Location: U-puku-ipi-sing Oddometer: 5,344	Crank bearings I changed the front and rear carriers because they needed to be changed. The front cam retainer as well. At 46,000 miles, the front and rear bearings measured JUST within specification. It didn't seem wise to reuse them if I plan on riding the thing 10,000 miles / year....which is exactly what I intend to do! All the bearings were still usable (sizewise), but they were dirty. You can see what the lack of an oil filter will do to the bearing surfaces. On the other hand, the cam and crank were in fine shape. So the bearings did their job. Nothing failed and I probably could have thrown a battery in it and ridden it for another 20,000 But they were due for retirement. __________________ '65 R60/2 '68 R60US '74 MG Eldorado '95 R100M

01-16-2013, 03:12 PM	#127
danedg Horizontally Opposed Joined: May 2008 Location: U-puku-ipi-sing Oddometer: 5,344	__________________ '65 R60/2 '68 R60US '74 MG Eldorado '95 R100M

01-18-2013, 06:48 AM	#128
England-Kev ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track! Oddometer: 2,630	Thanks, I am sure I would have noticed that if I had them.... not much going on here right now, we have 3" of snow, which is enough to bring the UK to a grinding halt, it surprises me that we ever conquered half the world, we have trouble these days getting to the end of the road! On top of that, my Dad passed away on monday, so my mind has been diverted away from motorcycles a little.. Roll on spring.... __________________ http://kevindean.zenfolio.com/ http://motodelcurva.wordpress.com/ http://backstreetthunder.wordpress.com

01-18-2013, 07:37 AM	#129
woodly1069 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Louisville, KY...really too far from the hills! Oddometer: 1,155	Damn Kev, sorry to hear the bad news about your dad... __________________ If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem!

01-18-2013, 04:45 PM	#130
danedg Horizontally Opposed Joined: May 2008 Location: U-puku-ipi-sing Oddometer: 5,344	Peace brother... It's a hard step... __________________ '65 R60/2 '68 R60US '74 MG Eldorado '95 R100M

01-19-2013, 04:07 AM	#134
England-Kev ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Berkshire, England. Just off the Beaten Track! Oddometer: 2,630	I just came across a picture I took at Horseshoe pass.... __________________ http://kevindean.zenfolio.com/ http://motodelcurva.wordpress.com/ http://backstreetthunder.wordpress.com

01-22-2013, 12:53 PM	#135
woodly1069 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Louisville, KY...really too far from the hills! Oddometer: 1,155	Dang! Sure do love an Eldorado in black! __________________ If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem!

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