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Old 11-20-2012, 10:13 AM   #31
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I posted the link to the LA Times article over in the Rockies Regional, because they probably have the most artifacts at risk.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:59 PM   #32
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:07 PM   #33
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:48 PM   #34
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:21 PM   #35
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I'm not sure I understand this sentiment.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:23 PM   #36
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I'm not sure I understand this sentiment.
That's because you are trying to apply logic and reason....now knock it off....
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:25 PM   #37
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I'm not sure I understand this sentiment.
Right there with ya Aaron. Not a big fan of LEO either, but It's not the officials in this case that are the problem being that it was a blatant smash and grab of Native American objects. These people have been treated like shit and persecuted long enough. To not see this as a travesty and report it if seen would be as bad as perpetrating the crime.

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Old 11-20-2012, 03:37 PM   #38
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You can bet your ass I won't report ANYTHING to this government or the police. Things happen, it's not nice or whatever, but oh well. Get over it.
I think I know what you are implying here. This is just speculation, but the perps could be ready for trouble, so handling the incident alone could be pretty dangerous. If you are Native American, I doubt any jury would come down on you. Anyone else would be risking as much as the criminals are.

Personally, I'd follow those bastards at a distance until I could get an armed LEO on their tail.

(but no, I would not sit idly by and watch them cut on stone from a distance)

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Old 11-20-2012, 04:03 PM   #39
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I think I know what you are implying here. This is just speculation, but the perps could be ready for trouble, so handling the incident alone could be pretty dangerous. If you are Native American, I doubt any jury would come down on you. Anyone else would be risking as much as the criminals are.

Personally, I'd follow those bastards at a distance until I could get an armed LEO on their tail.
Agreed, let's find these fucks and hand them over to the Indians. Done and gone.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:25 PM   #40
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:29 PM   #41
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:36 PM   #42
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You can bet your ass I won't report ANYTHING to this government or the police. Things happen, it's not nice or whatever, but oh well. Get over it.
What exactly are you implying? Tuff shit it happened, get over it. Or lets take matters into our own hands?

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Old 11-21-2012, 09:48 AM   #43
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along with riding offroad / dualsport / adventure bikes for the last 40 years, i am an arizona site steward. not sure what cali does in respect to keeping an official eye out for damage to archy and historic sites, but just in my region of central az alone, we monitor over 100 sites and that's only about 10%. over the last 8 years i've been doing it, traffic to some of the more remote sites has increased tenfold due to ohv use. it is primarily quads and side by sides allowing these lazy bastards to get right to the site and be able to take artifacts back with them. (of course i use my bikes to access the sites but have never seen another two wheeler anywhere near them)
we have our share of vandals, but rarely do we see anything as blatant as this. our petroglyph thieves usually use a hammer and chisel. penalties can be stiff, but rarely rough enough. (the site steward program won't allow us to carry a weapon )
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:24 PM   #44
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...the site steward program won't allow us to carry a weapon
Isn't that crazy, considering in AZ it's OK to carry if you aren't doing official business?
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:33 PM   #45
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What exactly are you implying? Tuff shit it happened, get over it. Or lets take matters into our own hands?

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He's saying; S,S,S, if you know, then you don't have to say it.
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