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Old 11-20-2012, 07:24 AM   #1
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Thinking of getting a midsized scooter

I've been kicking around the idea of getting something smaller than my silver Wing. My wife prefers to ride the Vstrom when we ride so the wing sits quite often. And I feel it's a lot of bike and expense to have sitting in the garage. Something that I'd ride solo and that would have enough umph to propel my 6ft 280lbs. All we have around he is moped shops so I can't go sit on a bunch of different bikes. I'm looking for recommendations in terms of models to check out. I'm open to everything as I don't know much about these midsized scooters. If I were to buy a 50. I'd probably get a Zuma so the Zuma 125 is definitely on my short list. All these came about when I saw a genuine buddy 125 on my local craigs list.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:57 AM   #2
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What is your idea of a "midsize" scooter? How are you going to use it and how fast do you need to go? Are you looking new or used?

Personally, I consider 150cc and under as small scooters, 200-300cc as midsize.

The Zuma 125 is a great little scooter but with a 34" inseam, the bars hit my knees when I turn the handlebars. An inch or 2 less inseam and it would probably be fine.

Some scooters I would look at are: Kymco Super 8 150, People 150, Movie 150, People 200s, People 250s.

I would put the Sym HD200 near at or near the top of the list.

The Aprilia Sport City 250 is a great scooter but there may not be a dealer near you. My Dealer in GA has a new 08 Sport City for $3495

Honda PCX 125 or 150. Great MPGs but the seating position of these seems to be made more for smaller people.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:17 AM   #3
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I'm thinking 125 or 150cc. Used for sure, it's main use would just be messing around and running errands. My work situation doesn't allow for using a bike so that's not a factor for now. Under seat storage is a must.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:25 AM   #4
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The Aprilia Sport City 250 is a great scooter but there may not be a dealer near you. My Dealer in GA has a new 08 Sport City for $3495
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This.

I had a Zuma 125; I weigh 100 lbs less than you, and while a truly great scooter, don't think it will haul you to your satisfaction.

You might look at the BV350.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:43 AM   #5
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I weigh 180. My Super 8 150 hauls me around just fine. It handles me and my wife OK but steep hills would be an issue two up. Top speed on my Super 8 is around 60 (69 on the speedo) and it cruises easily at around 50 (55 on the speedo). It handles hills fine with just me on it. Underseat storage is so-so but with the tail trunk, flat floor and rear part of the seat to bungee stuff to, it can haul quite a bit.

The scooters with small wheels tend to have larger underseat storage. I'd recommend the Genuine Buddy but it's a small scooter and you would look huge on it.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:33 AM   #6
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Throw the Kymco Downtown 300i into the mix. They may be hard to find used, but great power, very light weight, great mpg 70 (77ish for me if I'm easy on the throttle), freeway capable should you decide. Now for the bad, the leg room and seat padding leaves something to be desired, however if your looking at small scoots, maybe that's not an issue. Under seat storage is a full helmet and a half helmet. Which ever scoot you choose, I think for the weight, I wouldn't go under 200cc even if it is just around town.

Oh there is also a Downtown 200, I doubt there is a big price diff between the 300, but I don't know. Of course if you have to buy new, I guess it would negate what you are trying to accomplish.

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Old 11-20-2012, 11:36 AM   #7
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I'm about the same size as you (5'11'", 270 fully kitted up).

In addition to my SWing, I also have a Piaggio BV500. It handles better than the SWing, but has a 500cc single cylinder engine which makes significantly less power. That said, it has no problem moving me down the road past legal limits. I use it primarily for local runs 200 miles or less.

I like them both, but I think a lot depends on your anticipated use for the machine. If you want something to go to the grocery store, any number of scooters will accomplish that task very well, but if you plan on longer distances and higher speeds, more motor will be needed. You might want to check out the Suzuki Burgman 400 and the Yamaha Majesty and TMax. The Paggio BV350 is a new design which is similar to the BV500, but the motor is very efficient and makes almost the same amount of power. The Aprilia 250 or Vespa 300 Super might work for you. I don't really know about Kymco or some of the other marques, but I know there are a number of machines in the 200-300cc range which might do well for you also...

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Old 11-20-2012, 01:14 PM   #8
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Get the Zuma 125. Great for around town. Plenty fast for all the surface streets in Charleston.

(If you are interested we can talk. Thinking about selling mine to get down to 1 bike for a while.)
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:23 PM   #9
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Get the Zuma 125. Great for around town. Plenty fast for all the surface streets in Charleston.
ah, you might try the Z125 first; you might love it, but you are roughly the weight of my wife and I combined; it may not pull as lively as you wish. I (like some Z125 owners) came to feel that it should have been made as a 150. JMHO
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:27 PM   #10
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If you go used, the 125cc scooters are so cheap you can buy them with pocket change, so it isn't a major decision. I bought a brand new Zuma 125, and love it. I have a 34" inseam and it fits me fine. I did get the highway bar/pegs for it, not because I needed more legroom, but so I could use the entire floorboard for storage. Only problem really have with this scooter is that it is not freeway legal. I live near a 400 mile freeway where I feel it would be safe, from everything but cops. I would go with 150cc if you want freeway capability, but my only real choice there was the PCX150, and I was put off by its complexity, especially the valve adjustment procedure.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:19 PM   #11
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Honda Reflex 250, Yamaha Riva 180, or a Honda Elite 250. Those are older scooters, were sold in sufficient quantities that you could probably find one on Craigslist, still have parts available, and will be relatively cheap. The Honda Elite 250 might fit the bill perfectly for you...small, powerful enough to ride the freeway if you get the itch or have the need, and they often have a top box on the back for extra storage.

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Old 11-20-2012, 10:16 PM   #12
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Really your budget will determine how much of a scoot you can get. Generally speaking, for a given amount of money, you
could get a larger but older scooter or a smaller but newer scooter or something in between. My personal favorite would be
a 2004 to 2007 Honda Reflex. 250cc, 375#, 70ish mpg, 70+ mph, plenty of parts available if needed, easily available used
on ebay or C.L. in the $1500 to $2900 range, easy to work on, room to put your helmet under the seat, rock solid Honda
reliability, and if you are so inclined, you could put a car tire on the rear. ( I have one on one of my Reflex scooters. 33,000
miles on the tire so far!!!)

I have 3 Reflex scoots plus a 2006 Honda Silverwing FSC600A. By far I prefer my 2007 Reflex that I use to travel with on
2000 mile round trips and pull a single wheel trailer with my stuff loaded into the bolted on 35 gal. storage box. Very agile
and flickable for inner city commuting and road worthy enough for touring. Like any small bike, it does have a tendency to
slow down on steep upward grades, especially when I pull the trailer. I'm 160#, trailer is 50ish# with 65# or so in load and
maybe 20# more strapped to the rear seat. (all that and I can still get it up to 75mph on level pavement but the fuel economy
does drop to the mid 50's to low 60's then.)

just my 2 cents.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:18 PM   #13
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There are almost no parts available for the Elite 250. I was looking at one several years ago, and the first thing I did was go to bikebandit and cheapcycleparts and see what was still available for it. Not much. Not enough to keep it going, and that was 3-4 years ago. The Reflex is still new enough parts are available for it. I consider it ugly, but that's subjective. If they still made a 250 or 300 that looked a lot like the Elite, I would definitely be interested.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:50 AM   #14
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If I was going for an older honda I'd be looking at helix.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:44 AM   #15
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Ever consider the Kymco People series of scooters? They have the larger wheels for a better ride and have engine sizes from 125 to 300. Should be able to find a nice used one at a reasonable price.

I had a Kymco Xciting 500 and traded for a 300i GT, no regrets, lot more fun around town and secondary roads. Haven't had it on the highway--yet.
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