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Old 11-26-2012, 09:17 AM   #16
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Is that seat as comfortable as it looks?
The old Honda XL seats are like sitting on a Lazyboy chair. I don't know why manufacturers felt the need to make motorcycle seats so narrow and hard. People spend lots of money trying to make modern seats that nice.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:53 AM   #17
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I had a 1974 xl250 back in about 1977, great bike, rode the crap out of it, did a cam and powroll 300cc kit, and the bike did an indicated 90 mph.
All day comfortable, but I was only 17 or 18 and could likely ride something without any seat all day.

I used to take it out on the street at night with a borrowed tag with some friends to do dirt riding and back roads blasting before I got my licence. We had tons of fun, loved the bike, but it got stolen down the shore a few years later.
Maybe I was lucky it did get taken, I might have killed myself on that bike.
My next bike was a 1973 Triumph Daytona. I spent more time working on it then riding it, but did crash it well once in the rain.
The guy next door had a 350, and it felt like a heavy massive pig. I did not like it at all.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:01 PM   #18
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What Would it cost for one of those??? Anything to look out for with the age of them???
In my area $500 gets you a nice 250 or 350 with NO TITLE.

$800-1500 gets you a NICE one with a title and all the lights and street legal bits.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:19 PM   #19
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In my area $500 gets you a nice 250 or 350 with NO TITLE.

$800-1500 gets you a NICE one with a title and all the lights and street legal bits.
That's about where they are in California as well. Prices can be a bit higher for pristine models like the OP's, especially if they are fully street legal 250's or 350's. Most of those were stripped of all their street gear years ago. XL600's are good bargains right now, at $1500. Other brand bikes from the same era are also cheaper, since vintage Honda's seem to be considered the most collectable.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:22 PM   #20
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Yeah, soften the rear pre-load so the bike sags properly toward the back...

To the OP; those are a couple of clean bikes. As reliable as they are, they should provide decades of riding fun!
Yeah, I have heard of these bike's legendary reliability.... but:

This weekend, me (on my 350), my Dad (on my 250), and forum member BradyD (on his 1979 xt500) went for a ride up in Gambril park. We came across a park service road, whose gate happened to be open, so we rode down. The road soon turned into a downhill single track, then a rock garden. Pretty soon we were at the bottom of the mountain, with a STEEP rock garen (bowling ball to watermellon sized 'loose' rocks) preventing us from turning around and going back up. About this time, my GPS lost satellite reception...

About 1.5 hrs of riding single track mountain bike trails later (with big drops, logs, rocks, and stream corssings... all with about 2 inches between the end of your handlebars and trees) we were within earshot of traffic. The whole time we were looking for a road. We were close to a real road...!

And then... my 350 dies. Dad is about 100 yards ahead of me, and his 250 dies too! We determined that BOTH Hondas had no spark!! Since the bikes are new to me... I had no spare parts on me.

The road was about 1/4 mile UP HILL through the woods, so BradyD rode his Xt500 up and parked by the road. He was nice enough to help Dad and I push our Hondas out. Dad then rode BradyD's Xt500 home, and got the truck and trailer and picked us up.

Both my 250 and 350 had the condensors fail! On the same ride within 100 yards of each other, what a coincidence (and bad luck)!!

The coil, plug wire, and condensor are sold as a unit for the old XLs (which i think is STUIPID). I went to NAPA Auto Parts and bought two generic 6 volt condensors, cut off the old ones, and soldered the new ones on. Problem solved. I did enough troubleshooting to determine that the coil-condensor-plug-wire assembly was bad on both bikes, so i decided to try to replace the condensors before buying any expensive parts... and luckily that worked!

Now i feel like i know most everything about my bikes. I bought the manual and raed the whole thing. I also went through the whole wiring harness on BOTH bikes, trying to get my spark back. The good news is that both bikes still have un-altered original wiring harnesses, so it wasnt too hard to go through and troubleshoot!

Here is a photo of both Hondas by the road, after bring pushed up hill through the woods, waiting for the trailer to arrive:


Here is the 350 after being stripped while I'm hunting for the source of my lost spark:


While I was into them, I adjusted the cam chain, valves, brakes, replaced the points, condensor, spark plugs, and did an oil change on both bikes. They are back on the road now... and will hopefully show me some of that legendary HONDA reliability!
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:33 PM   #21
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Well, keep in mind, they are OLD now!
I wonder if anyone makes an electronic ignition system for them.
I put a boyer on my old Triumph and it was trouble free for at least 5 years that I had the bike.

When I had one way back, I never had any problems with it, and I always abused it.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:54 AM   #22
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Does anyone know of a good parts source for a 10:1 compression 305cc or 290cc big bore piston for the 250?

I tried Powroll and Xlient Performance, but they only offer the 290 in 11:1, which i dont really want. I ahve not found a 305cc piston anywhere...

(The 250 is great, and i love it. It even crusies confortably at 50 mph. But i want a little more torque so I dont have to down shift so much for big hills.) I'm totally satified with the output from the 350.
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