Dream Project.

pipeburn · 11-21-2012, 09:39 PM

I got this bike a little while back, but just really started working on it. I heard the bike run before I bought it, but I knew that the clutch wasn't disengaging and the transmission might be hurt. After playing with it for a little while I decided that the tranny was indeed completely knackered.

Just a couple hours of work after deciding to pull everything apart.

There are already some unpleasant surprises, and I have yet to split the case.
In addition to the visible rusty spots, 4 links of the centrifuge chain are completely rusted together. Guess it's time to start the parts list...

It also came with some interesting sludge in the bottom of the side cover.

Next step is carrying it down to the basement and pulling the bottom off.
Though I may to find a manual before I do that..

flemsmith · 11-21-2012, 10:12 PM

I once built one of these; there was a very helpful book by a guy named Bill Silver. I let mine go with the bike, but it's worth trying to find one if you can find a used cc. At the time there was a club called the Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club which was helpful for parts sourcing. Good luck, you'll get lots of attention from old guys like me.

Roy

manxkipper · 11-22-2012, 04:23 AM

If that is a 305cc late 60"s honda twin then the below links may help. Cost free too!

http://www.mediafire.com/?dano05xtt4q34qx shop manual

http://www.mediafire.com/?92p07da77skdtsj owners manual

http://www.vintagehonda.net/docs/cb77pc.pdf parts list with diagrams

max57 · 11-22-2012, 05:16 AM

That is my favorite motorcycle. A fine machine. One of the bikes that can be truly economical transportation.

Bloodweiser · 11-22-2012, 05:36 AM

anonny · 11-22-2012, 09:29 PM

Awesome, I'm in

nsu max · 11-22-2012, 11:01 PM

I'm in to. You'll love it! It's a sweet running bike.

lrutt · 11-23-2012, 08:53 AM

Looks like you have a challenge there. Too bad those main bearings are rusted. But from the looks of all the goop on the base gasket, it probably wouldn't hurt to tear it down and get a good look at things.

Good thing tha front fender is in nice shape. that was usually one of the first things to get buggered.

They are a nice bike but geared way to low and with that single puny little carb the leave a little to be desired for acceleration. Regardless, I love mine and have had it since 1980.

Check out the 305 forum if you haven't see it yet.
http://www.honda305.com/forum/

Gratuitus pic of my baby:

pipeburn · 11-24-2012, 04:28 PM

I got the rest disassembled, results below.

The head and cylinders were solidly stuck together, so they stayed together.

They seem to be missing a few pieces...

You can't get a crank with that kind of corrosion just anywhere.

5 gear teeth and a piece of rubber. I don't think all the metal is accounted for yet.

bmwhacker · 11-24-2012, 06:18 PM

Bummer. I hate it when Dreams become Nightmares.

jellycow · 11-25-2012, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipeburn

I heard the bike run before I bought it

Really, with that kind of rust inside and pieces missing of the pistons?

anonny · 11-25-2012, 07:17 PM

What year is it? I have 2 Dreams waiting to be turned into 1 so there should be a spare motor or lots of spare internals. Alternatively if you give up on the project I see a few parts I'd like to purchase from yours.

Unfortunately I wont be getting to mine until late winter/ early spring because my CL needs to be finished off first.

pipeburn · 11-25-2012, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellycow

Really, with that kind of rust inside and pieces missing of the pistons?

Very little of the rust was in a place that was crucial to engine operation. even the rusty main bearing is still tight, it just won't last too long like that. The pistons are just damaged on the skirt. The sharp edge is the only real danger, one could probably file the edges a little and run them for thousands more miles. Most newer motors have much shorter skirts anyhow. Otherwise the pistons look to be in great shape, not really any signs of blow-by. However the transmission was not at all functional, which is why I disassembled it in the first place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonny

What year is it? I have 2 Dreams waiting to be turned into 1 so there should be a spare motor or lots of spare internals. Alternatively if you give up on the project I see a few parts I'd like to purchase from yours.

Unfortunately I wont be getting to mine until late winter/ early spring because my CL needs to be finished off first.

It's a 1964. My preferred option would be a spare motor as well, but I definitely need a main shaft and a first gear.

ValuePack · 11-26-2012, 03:57 PM

Subscribed, hell of a cool project you've got there. I eye Dreams longingly on Craigslist from time to time, really need to get one in the stable.

Bloodweiser · 11-26-2012, 06:02 PM

I'll take it if pipeburn doesn't want it.

11-21-2012, 09:39 PM	#1
pipeburn ^OP Adventurer Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Oddometer: 77	Dream Project. I got this bike a little while back, but just really started working on it. I heard the bike run before I bought it, but I knew that the clutch wasn't disengaging and the transmission might be hurt. After playing with it for a little while I decided that the tranny was indeed completely knackered. Just a couple hours of work after deciding to pull everything apart. There are already some unpleasant surprises, and I have yet to split the case. In addition to the visible rusty spots, 4 links of the centrifuge chain are completely rusted together. Guess it's time to start the parts list... It also came with some interesting sludge in the bottom of the side cover. Next step is carrying it down to the basement and pulling the bottom off. Though I may to find a manual before I do that..

11-21-2012, 10:12 PM	#2
flemsmith lurk Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Apache Junction, Az Oddometer: 298	Book,,,, I once built one of these; there was a very helpful book by a guy named Bill Silver. I let mine go with the bike, but it's worth trying to find one if you can find a used cc. At the time there was a club called the Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club which was helpful for parts sourcing. Good luck, you'll get lots of attention from old guys like me. Roy

11-22-2012, 04:23 AM	#3
manxkipper Fishpistel Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Cape Town Oddometer: 230	If that is a 305cc late 60"s honda twin then the below links may help. Cost free too! http://www.mediafire.com/?dano05xtt4q34qx shop manual http://www.mediafire.com/?92p07da77skdtsj owners manual http://www.vintagehonda.net/docs/cb77pc.pdf parts list with diagrams __________________ Aprilia Tuono Norton 650 Mercury Moto Guzzi LM2 1936 BSA Y-13 Project

11-22-2012, 05:16 AM	#4
max57 Adventurer Joined: Sep 2012 Location: Calais, Vermont Oddometer: 56	That is my favorite motorcycle. A fine machine. One of the bikes that can be truly economical transportation. __________________ "Deep in the heart of every human being...the drive to demonstrate competence." R. Buckminster Fuller

11-22-2012, 05:36 AM	#5
Bloodweiser honestly Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate Ny Oddometer: 2,264	__________________ the carrot seed - honest country. Bulletproof VS. Bloodweiser - yamaha world super GP TT 5000 BW - 455 : BP - 100

11-22-2012, 09:29 PM	#6
anonny What could go wrong? Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Beautiful Revelstoke BC Oddometer: 4,985	Awesome, I'm in __________________ Kawasaki H1 build thread 71- 450 Honda CL re & re Just another pathetic sheep following the herd

11-22-2012, 11:01 PM	#7
nsu max Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2008 Oddometer: 378	I'm in to. You'll love it! It's a sweet running bike.

11-23-2012, 08:53 AM	#8
lrutt SILENCE.....i kill you Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Deltona, FL Oddometer: 812	Looks like you have a challenge there. Too bad those main bearings are rusted. But from the looks of all the goop on the base gasket, it probably wouldn't hurt to tear it down and get a good look at things. Good thing tha front fender is in nice shape. that was usually one of the first things to get buggered. They are a nice bike but geared way to low and with that single puny little carb the leave a little to be desired for acceleration. Regardless, I love mine and have had it since 1980. Check out the 305 forum if you haven't see it yet. http://www.honda305.com/forum/ Gratuitus pic of my baby: __________________ 2004 Harley Sporster 1200C, 2001 Ducati M900, 2001 Honda XR650L, 1994 Harley Heritage, 1978 Honda CB750K with sidecar, 1977 Moto Guzzi 850 LeMans, 1976 Honda CB750K, 1965 Honda 305 Dream, 1973 Norton 850 Commando, 1971 Triumph Trophy 650, 1970 Honda Trail 90, 1970 Triumph Tiger 650, 1973 Honda Z50, 1984 Yamaha Virago 1000, 1981 Honda Passport 70, 1970 Suzuki T250, 1971 Yamaha RT1 360

11-24-2012, 04:28 PM	#9
pipeburn ^OP Adventurer Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Oddometer: 77	I got the rest disassembled, results below. The head and cylinders were solidly stuck together, so they stayed together. They seem to be missing a few pieces... You can't get a crank with that kind of corrosion just anywhere. 5 gear teeth and a piece of rubber. I don't think all the metal is accounted for yet.

11-24-2012, 06:18 PM	#10
bmwhacker Still on 3 wheels Joined: May 2009 Location: MONTANA NATIVE from NATIVE MONTANA Oddometer: 3,470	Bummer. I hate it when Dreams become Nightmares. __________________ http://jupiterhack.blogspot.com Living proof you shouldn't play with matches

11-25-2012, 07:17 PM	#12
anonny What could go wrong? Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Beautiful Revelstoke BC Oddometer: 4,985	What year is it? I have 2 Dreams waiting to be turned into 1 so there should be a spare motor or lots of spare internals. Alternatively if you give up on the project I see a few parts I'd like to purchase from yours. Unfortunately I wont be getting to mine until late winter/ early spring because my CL needs to be finished off first. __________________ Kawasaki H1 build thread 71- 450 Honda CL re & re Just another pathetic sheep following the herd

11-26-2012, 03:57 PM	#14
ValuePack Adventurer Joined: May 2012 Location: Manchester, NH Oddometer: 23	Subscribed, hell of a cool project you've got there. I eye Dreams longingly on Craigslist from time to time, really need to get one in the stable.

11-26-2012, 06:02 PM	#15
Bloodweiser honestly Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate Ny Oddometer: 2,264	I'll take it if pipeburn doesn't want it. __________________ the carrot seed - honest country. Bulletproof VS. Bloodweiser - yamaha world super GP TT 5000 BW - 455 : BP - 100

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