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Old 12-17-2012, 01:57 AM   #91
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Troy Bayliss classic.. Old bar, near taree...

Check it out on Facebook, look up Troy Bayliss and you'll find it quickly.


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Old 12-17-2012, 01:59 AM   #92
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Sounds like a plan Ockrocket, the Howes could be a little too serious for some especially from the look out onward.
So tells us when in January you can show us around your backyard.

Though the 19th I think I'm heading up to Taree area for the Troy Bayliss Invitational.
Really, I don't think it was any more serious than that short track we did after the caves, whatever it was called...



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Old 12-17-2012, 02:20 AM   #93
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Yeah think about it, you weren't sweating at all Saturday were you.
Not compared going up and down and up and down all those wash outs on The Howes Trail and the corrugated and rutted surfaces.
The Swallows Tail was a breeze compared to that.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:22 AM   #94
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Really, I don't think it was any more serious than that short track we did after the caves, whatever it was called...



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I haven't ridden the Swallows Tail, but tend to agree with Nick's sentiments. To me the Howes Trail is little more than a rough 4WD road & I'd have thought even those with limited dirt experience would be fine. I don't really see the washouts Matty refers to as a problem - on a dirt oriented bike they offer 2nd & 3rd gear jumps, and the heavier GS type bikes you can roll over them no problem.

To me the tougher challenge would be a couple of the steeper descents, as the surface can be gravelly and off camber. You just need to slow down & take those in first gear, with little or no brake (i.e. maximise engine braking).

I took a client of mine through there a few months ago when we took a Friday off. We headed north from Sydney up the Old Road, through Yarramalong and the Watagans to Wollombi for lunch at the pub, then west across Boree Track, Yengo Track, Howes Trail, then south to Sydney on the Putty, then back home via Whelbarrow Ridge Rd etc.

My client was on a newish GSA and had very limited off road experience. He dropped it a couple of times at very low speed on descents, once on a muddy downhill (Watagans) and again on Howes Trail. Despite this he had a wonderful day - had no idea where such a bike was capable of going and saw parts of the world he didn't know existed. He had a couple of reds that night & slept like a log!

Anyway, I wouldn't shy away from the Howes Trail, as it's part of a great day loop.

I'll try & join you lads for a ride next year, as I'd like to see a few different places.

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Old 12-17-2012, 03:23 AM   #95
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Hi guys. I have a F800GS ready for adventure.

I will like to join for small adv trips around Sydney (300-400Km)
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:34 AM   #96
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I did Howe's Trail on my Wee-Strom a year or so back with Mudrat and some others, I managed it without a drop [and I'm only just average as a dirt rider] but another bloke dropped his Wee in some sand- then again, everyone drops their bike in sand from time to time.

Next time I will take my KLE, it is much easier on the dirt stuff.

With care the trail is ok, for very skilled riders it is a blast.

Baiazid, you would be welcome to join in on any of the rides... keep an eye open for future ride posts.

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Old 12-17-2012, 11:32 AM   #97
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Howes Trail

I'm keen to have go at Howes Trail. Sounds like a bit of fun even though, as Ockrocket says, it might be a bit tricky on the Wee.

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Old 12-17-2012, 01:14 PM   #98
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The Howes is a little bit of a challenge compared to the weekend Jason.
I've been on it twice this year and it is a fun day out and yes as said there is certainly the opportunity for some air.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:56 PM   #99
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Glow-worm tunnel might be a nice idea:

http://infobluemountains.net.au/rail.../glow_worm.htm
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:19 PM   #100
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The Newnes ride is a nice easy run, there isn't much too it except the little drop down the hill before the rock cave on Black Fellows Trail and then a short bumpy-ish bit (last time I was there) before you come out onto the tar again.

It is a nice day out.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:36 PM   #101
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Hi

What is the total distance of that ride.

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The Newnes ride is a nice easy run, there isn't much too it except the little drop down the hill before the rock cave on Black Fellows Trail and then a short bumpy-ish bit (last time I was there) before you come out onto the tar again.

It is a nice day out.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:34 PM   #102
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The Newnes ride is a nice easy run, there isn't much too it except the little drop down the hill before the rock cave on Black Fellows Trail and then a short bumpy-ish bit (last time I was there) before you come out onto the tar again.

It is a nice day out.
Then maybe you'd like to go down the Beecroft Track rather than Blackfellows Hand Trail.....then we will see what you think about the "nice easy run"

BTW, I will still go via BFHT and meet you on Wolgan Road.....I ain't that good

It is a great ride from Zig Zag [Clarence] to Newnes for riders still in the early stages of developing some dirt skills, while still having that great feeling of true "adventure riding".

I usually end up doing between 150-250 km over the course of a more dirt oriented day ride, I cover 250-500 km on a more tar type ride but still try to find some dirt roads along the way.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:45 AM   #103
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Glow-worm tunnel might be a nice idea:

http://infobluemountains.net.au/rail.../glow_worm.htm

Plenty of abandoned tunnels if you know where they are. Been riding around the area for over 30 years

Keen to go up there again soon.










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Old 12-18-2012, 12:56 AM   #104
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Plenty of abandoned tunnels if you know where they are. Been riding around the area for over 30 years

Keen to go up there again soon.






WOW: nice place to be!

We can organize another trip there
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:58 AM   #105
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Done the Beecroft too, loaded up with gear for a camp and that's certainly not for beginners and it was my second ride out on the Tenere. It was a bit of an eye opener that's for sure.

Don't get me wrong Black Fellows is not a bad trail and for the people who I met on the weekend it would be a fine ride and enough of a fun run.
But just throwing names and trails around that some people know and some people don't and some people have riden and some people haven't is easy.
Without any of us really knowing each other in this thread it's kinda hard to say what people would do well with and what people wouldn't.
So when I say it's a nice easy day with a small bumpy bit toward then end it's with the people I met and rode the day with Saturday past.

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