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Old 11-26-2012, 07:04 PM   #1
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need guidance. 690R,530exc,WR,DR,XLR

What a great forum! I have been reading a little about everything from guys out on the trail for years; from day trips to forums about every bike I can find! This is great!!

Im a noob and looking for a little help.
Current ride: KTM 2007 450 sx-f. First offroad bike in 29 years and having a blast.
I like hard woods riding and squeezed in one hair scramble race; had fun. I Moto a little for handling skills.

Now myself and two friends are dreaming of riding the Continental Divide this year and this is where you all come in.

I am looking for a fun, powerful bike that can handle hard off road riding, but will still put a smile on my face commuting to work 28 miles each way.

Here is a list I have been looking at:
KTM 690 Enduro-R
KTM 690 SMC
KTM 530 EXC
WR 450
KLR
DR
XLR

and I am over my head.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:20 PM   #2
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I have owned 3 of the bikes you listed above, and my vote would be for the KTM 530.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:33 PM   #3
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Nothing is going to inspire or create adrenaline like the KTM machines, and from what you have wrote I don't think you would be happy on anything else.
That being said you have to be able to afford it and maintain it and keep tires on the beast, and maybe deal with some issues, as you would on any race ready bike.
If money is no object I would go KTM all the way.
I had a 2009 450 xcw and it was an amazing machine, I only sold it because I lacked time and money.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:53 PM   #4
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Tossing my vote behind the 690 Enduro R - but that's because I have one and it flat rocks!!!!! Light enough to handle easily, great suspension, excellent power, usable range, I found my comfortable onroad even stock, heavy enough to not get blown around on the highway.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:01 PM   #5
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Cross off the last 4 bikes and pick any of the KTMs. Having already owned one, nothing else will compare.

Good luck.

Consider a Beta, Husky or Husaberg?
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:38 PM   #6
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Current ride: KTM 2007 450 sx-f. First offroad bike in 29 years and having a blast.
I like hard woods riding and squeezed in one hair scramble race; had fun. I Moto a little for handling skills.

Now myself and two friends are dreaming of riding the Continental Divide this year and this is where you all come in.

I am looking for a fun, powerful bike that can handle hard off road riding, but will still put a smile on my face commuting to work 28 miles each way.
The CD is 10% paved and 80% gravel roads, plenty of people have done this on a dl650. Long way from hare scrambles and hard woods riding.

How often do you plan to do the 56 mile round trip commute? That's 1120 miles a month (assuming 20 working days) and the bikes that are good for this and also good for "hard off road riding" [if you possess a decent harescramble skill level] are basically non-existant.

The most obvious compromise candidate is the 690 enduro. The WR450 and KTM 530 are going to be less work and more fun off-road and the KLR would be at the other end of the spectrum, especially in terms of sustained commuting mileage.

As with the previous threads asking for the ultimate do it all bike, you're going to have to compromise somewhere, or have more than one bike.

Good luck!

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Old 11-26-2012, 10:51 PM   #7
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Are you keeping the 450? If so I'd add the 690R. If money's tight, I'd still keep the 450 and buy one of the last three used for the CD ride and commuting. If you are going to do that commute on a regular basis, I'd hate to put those miles on the 530 or WR450.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:14 AM   #8
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I have owned 3 of the bikes you listed above, and my vote would be for the KTM 530.
I own a 2011 530,its the most fun you can have with your clothes on. "We dont need no steenking fuel injection!" Get a used CB350 for commuting
or some other scrapper,and save the plated dirt toy for dirt.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:43 AM   #9
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While it can be done, do you really want to be riding the C.D. on a 530 that has such a small volume of oil on the combustion side? It's a split oil system and oil degradation is pretty fast. I've done 200+ mile offroad days on both the 530 and 690 and wouldn't consider the 530 for such a long trip overall.

My first real ride on the 690 was the OBCDR, and found it did shockingly well offroad completely loaded down with gear.

Look up the thread on Noah's around the world on a 690 thread.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:46 AM   #10
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i would go for a 690r.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:36 AM   #11
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I rode the CDR aboard a Yam WR250R. I liked it a lot. Enough that I left it out west to visit and replaced my 950 with a new 690R set up like the Yamaha. They are both great dual sport motorcycles, but neither is a racer. Both are over 300lbs wet with the gear you'll want for long range travel.

I vote you keep the race bike for hard core woods riding and find something else for the CDR and your commuting. A new 690R with all the gear, gps and such to ride the CDR will cost about $12k. You could buy a pretty sweet CDR/Commuter for a lot less than that and keep your racer.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:34 AM   #12
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Well the 690R sounds like the fit with keeping my 450.
I would only ride to work maybe once a week during the summer. I live in Chicago so we would start with weekend trips in Michigan on the MCCC trails or other trips close I find on this forum.

What do you think about having a set of KTM SMC rims and road tires I could switch out if I know I won't hit the dirt for while.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:50 AM   #13
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I`m a fan of the 690R because I have one. Like mentioned by others the 690 does extremely well loaded, service intervals are longer and it does really good on the dirt and the street. You will need to get a better seat because the stocker is like sitting on a 2x4 covered with vinyl---it`s BRUTAL. Other items need to be addressed like the silencer, air filter, remapping, kick stand switch, removing the smog crap etc.

My 690R puts out an honest 70 HP and the grin factor is off the charts. It eats a rear tire in about 1200 miles if you ride at a medium pace.

Paid 10K for it then added another 2K and now it`s set up just right. Another thing to consider is the resale value. The KTM`s hold value if maintained well.

The 690R was my choice and I`m glad I did.

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Old 11-27-2012, 11:47 AM   #14
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Draft - give me a shout if you want a guided tour of the Michigan MCCCT trails. I ride a 2012 690 Enduro R.

I am in the Grand Rapids area, and we day ride starting near White Cloud and ride the ORV, single track, MCCCT two-tracks, Forestry roads, and snowmobile routes up to Baldwin & Boon.

We also dualsport ride the Allegan woods and Gun Lake/Yankee Springs area.

The 690 Enduro R is the perfect bike for this type of exploring. Our typical ride is about 150+ miles.


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Old 11-27-2012, 12:43 PM   #15
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You will need to get a better seat because the stocker is like sitting on a 2x4 covered with vinyl---it`s BRUTAL.
I think the stock seat is pretty cushy! I think he will, too, coming from the 450.
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