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Old 11-11-2013, 11:06 AM   #1891
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BBC : McLaren have decided to sign novice Kevin Magnussen as Jenson Button's team-mate next year.
Perez was Whitmarsh's idea alone and in the teeth of opposition. Perez needed to do a lot better to keep his seat.

McLaren haven't given up on Alonso. They'll be hoping for a Alonso/Raikkonen bust up next year and tempt him with Honda's return in 2015.
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:12 PM   #1892
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Odd isn't it?

The same circumstances existed last season and right through this one. Yet Kimi only seems to have become agitated by it once he's got a contract with Ferrari safely in his pocket.
So he's wrong to be angry about being jerked around by Lotus?

Ever heard of Bizarro Superman? He lives in a world where everything is opposite. You might like it there.
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:15 PM   #1893
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Maybe they did no such thing?
Maybe he signed a contract? Maybe the contract specified a payment schedule that has not been adhered to for two consecutive years?

Maybe that's why Kimi is irate?
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:41 PM   #1894
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They brought Kimi in on a contract they couldn't afford. Then they strung him along, getting the benefit of his ability without playing him as agreed.
Oh, they played him alright!?!
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:05 PM   #1895
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So he's wrong to be angry about being jerked around by Lotus?
Don't be obtuse. I haven't said that he has no right to be pissed-off. I'm saying that his public response is petulant and churlish.

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Maybe he signed a contract? Maybe the contract specified a payment schedule that has not been adhered to for two consecutive years?

Maybe that's why Kimi is irate?
Maybe after McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes didn't want him when he announced his return to F1, Lotus decided that they'd take him on his "laid back" terms (no corporate stuff, no glad-handing the sponsors, no schmoozing potential money men) and decided "well fuck you Kimi, if you won't help raise team income you can wait for your pay until we get money from your results bonuses."

Lot's of maybes.
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:15 PM   #1896
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Don't be obtuse.
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Now THAT is funny.... Considering the source
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:47 PM   #1897
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Don't be obtuse. I haven't said that he has no right to be pissed-off. I'm saying that his public response is petulant and churlish.

Maybe after McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes didn't want him when he announced his return to F1, Lotus decided that they'd take him on his "laid back" terms (no corporate stuff, no glad-handing the sponsors, no schmoozing potential money men) and decided "well fuck you Kimi, if you won't help raise team income you can wait for your pay until we get money from your results bonuses."

Lot's of maybes.
There's only one maybe: If Lotus had adhered to the contract they voluntarily signed, then they'd still have the services of Kimi Raikkonen for the last two races.

A deal's a deal. They broke it. Two years in a row.
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:01 PM   #1898
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Massa to Williams in Maldonado's seat


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Hopefully Maldo left his wallet.


I think maybe Maldonado's money spigot has been shut off.
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:21 PM   #1899
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Now THAT is funny.... Considering the source
Aw diddums. Has the nasty man said howwid things about Kimiwimi?
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Aw diddums. Has the nasty man said howwid things about Kimiwimi?
In your cups tonight twat-whistle?
Or just arguing with all & sundry for practice?

Personally I don't think Kimi was right to bow out at the end of the season, but no one knows how his back feels. Or what his motivation is, or even what the contract says.

Hell, lotus may have asked him to sit, and this is face-saving.

So no, I won't take your bait.
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All this year, my main motivation to watch F1 racing was to see how Kimi did in the race. There's much more to it than pay. Lotus is disrespectful of Kimi in word and deed. Intentionally giving Kimi an illegal car that sent him to the back of the grid, is by itself a legitimate reason to not come back.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:03 PM   #1902
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In your cups tonight twat-whistle?
Or just arguing with all & sundry for practice?
Neither. Just pointing-out to the soppy fan-boys that Kimi isn't beyond criticism in this farce.

Now I see we are getting the conspiracy theorists chipping-in: Lotus would rather see Kimi at the back of the grid than finish higher in the Constructors Championship. What's next? They engineered his trapped nerve? FFS!
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:33 AM   #1903
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teams worried about "ugly" in 2014....
sounds like an every year issue

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Old 11-12-2013, 08:05 AM   #1904
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Neither. Just pointing-out to the soppy fan-boys that Kimi isn't beyond criticism in this farce.

Now I see we are getting the conspiracy theorists chipping-in: Lotus would rather see Kimi at the back of the grid than finish higher in the Constructors Championship. What's next? They engineered his trapped nerve? FFS!
Lotus got caught cheating repeatedly and Kimi paid the price.
Kimi has delivered the goods, Lotus has not.
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I read a. Mention that Felipe is such a nice guy that he's driving for free.
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